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Title: Herb is rolling over in his grave!
Post by: SingletSlinger on December 11, 2014, 11:05:19 AM: This weekend's IU lineup
125 FORFEIT
133   Alonzo Shepherd   Jr.   2-4
141   Joe Duca   r-Sr.   2-4
149   Trevor Moody   r-So.   4-6
157   Luke Blanton   r-Fr.   9-7
165   #3/3 Taylor Walsh   r-Sr.   14-1
174   Wyatt Wilson   r-Fr.   5-3
184   Matt Irick   r-So.   10-6
197   Luke Sheridan   Sr.   12-5
285   Gavan Jolley-Little   Fr.   2-4
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Post by: Brew on December 11, 2014, 12:25:18 PM: what happened to goldman at hwt?
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Post by: LILHOWDOG on December 11, 2014, 12:35:42 PM: Quote from: Brew on December 11, 2014, 12:25:18 PM
what happened to goldman at hwt?

Got out stalled in a wrestle off??
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Post by: Brew on December 11, 2014, 01:17:32 PM: perhaps It was for the best...I will admit I was a bit concerned for him going up to HWT.
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Post by: brycemus on December 11, 2014, 01:35:57 PM: I hope he is haunting Goldman right now
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Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on December 11, 2014, 01:53:14 PM: Quote from: SingletSlinger on December 11, 2014, 11:05:19 AM
This weekend's IU lineup
125 FORFEIT

Put me in coach!
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Post by: LILHOWDOG on December 11, 2014, 02:41:19 PM: Quote from: SingletSlinger on December 11, 2014, 11:05:19 AM
This weekend's IU lineup
125 FORFEIT
133   Alonzo Shepherd   Jr.   2-4
141   Joe Duca   r-Sr.   2-4
149   Trevor Moody   r-So.   4-6
157   Luke Blanton   r-Fr.   9-7
165   #3/3 Taylor Walsh   r-Sr.   14-1
174   Wyatt Wilson   r-Fr.   5-3
184   Matt Irick   r-So.   10-6
197   Luke Sheridan   Sr.   12-5
285   Gavan Jolley-Little   Fr.   2-4

How much of their scholarship dough is tied up in this lineup?

30%???
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Post by: brycemus on December 11, 2014, 02:43:02 PM: hopefully with all that % going to Walsh
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Post by: 1stplace on December 11, 2014, 02:43:14 PM: Quote from: FalconWrestlingKY on December 11, 2014, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: SingletSlinger on December 11, 2014, 11:05:19 AM
This weekend's IU lineup
125 FORFEIT

Put me in coach!

You can still make weight?
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Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on December 11, 2014, 03:02:48 PM: Quote from: 1stplace on December 11, 2014, 02:43:14 PM
Quote from: FalconWrestlingKY on December 11, 2014, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: SingletSlinger on December 11, 2014, 11:05:19 AM
This weekend's IU lineup
125 FORFEIT

Put me in coach!

You can still make weight?

It's only 25 pounds I can make it
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Post by: Intensity guru on December 11, 2014, 03:59:35 PM: Quote from: SingletSlinger on December 11, 2014, 11:05:19 AM
This weekend's IU lineup
125 FORFEIT
133   Alonzo Shepherd   Jr.   2-4
141   Joe Duca   r-Sr.   2-4
149   Trevor Moody   r-So.   4-6
157   Luke Blanton   r-Fr.   9-7
165   #3/3 Taylor Walsh   r-Sr.   14-1
174   Wyatt Wilson   r-Fr.   5-3
184   Matt Irick   r-So.   10-6
197   Luke Sheridan   Sr.   12-5
285   Gavan Jolley-Little   Fr.   2-4
yikes
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Post by: Gantry on December 11, 2014, 08:39:47 PM: Taylor Walsh and Isaac Jordan just got underway right now if you have BTN Plus. Wisconsin up 17-0 on Indiana right now
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Post by: LILHOWDOG on December 11, 2014, 10:06:52 PM: The Hoosiers battled hard to a 0-45 loss. Jordan over Walsh 3-1.
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Post by: jammen on December 12, 2014, 10:13:56 AM: Herb could of been a Terp's fan.
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Post by: Gantry on December 12, 2014, 10:48:38 AM: Someone posted on TheMat that Indiana didn't have ONE SINGLE takedown or reversal the entire match. Is that true? I watched from 165 on but wasn't fully paying attention outside of 165. I don't remember IU getting a score.
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Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on December 12, 2014, 10:49:26 AM: What will it take for Indiana to replace Goldman? A high school team beating Indiana?
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Post by: fuhr on December 12, 2014, 10:55:36 AM: A graduation perhaps?
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Post by: Brew on December 12, 2014, 11:15:35 AM: I hope carolinablue stops by and shares their thoughts...last season the problem with iu wrestling was that the athletes werent buying into the program...it would be interesting to see if those thoughts are the same now after being exposed to the program a bit.
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Post by: Grimm on December 12, 2014, 03:06:32 PM: Quote from: Gantry on December 12, 2014, 10:48:38 AM
Someone posted on TheMat that Indiana didn't have ONE SINGLE takedown or reversal the entire match. Is that true? I watched from 165 on but wasn't fully paying attention outside of 165. I don't remember IU getting a score.
I attended the dual. Yes, that is true . . . IU didn't have even a single offensive point.
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Post by: LILHOWDOG on December 13, 2014, 01:38:40 PM: Hoosiers right the ship with big wins over SIUE and D3 Manchester. :o
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Post by: Intensity guru on December 13, 2014, 08:10:41 PM: For the love of god.......... :-\
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Post by: Bronxbomber on December 14, 2014, 04:10:50 PM: Wow no offensive points
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Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on December 14, 2014, 05:30:40 PM: I could've sworn there was a time in the past couple years they almost lost to an NAIA team but I can't find the dual
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Post by: Carolinablue on December 15, 2014, 10:28:27 PM: Re: Herb is rolling over in his
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I hope carolinablue stops by and shares their thoughts...last season the problem with iu wrestling was that the athletes werent buying into the program...it would be interesting to see if those thoughts are the same now after being exposed to the program bit

If you recall towards the end of the season I voiced my concern about IU not having a light weight or neutral coach who wrestled worth all of the wrestlers along with several light weights not buying into the program . All of these items have a direct affect on the kids and affect how they train. if you notice also that IU line up was different this weekend at the duals then at Wisconsin, as they all settle in they will be fine. Several holes to fill with the transfers but they will be fine
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Post by: Rockhard on December 15, 2014, 10:45:50 PM: Quote from: Bronxbomber on December 14, 2014, 04:10:50 PM
Wow no offensive points

Yup they will be just fine. Nothing to see here guys.....
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Post by: Intensity guru on December 18, 2014, 06:35:17 PM: Fine = 0 B1G dual wins and bottom 3 at the tournament. Again.
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Post by: SetonHallPirate on December 18, 2014, 06:47:30 PM: Quote from: Intensity guru on December 18, 2014, 06:35:17 PM
Fine = 0 B1G dual wins and bottom 3 at the tournament. Again.
Well, they do get Michigan State February 13th in Bloomington!
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Post by: SetonHallPirate on December 20, 2014, 02:44:40 PM: Cleveland State 24, Indiana 13...
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Post by: LILHOWDOG on December 20, 2014, 03:18:20 PM: 'VICTORY!!' -- Tarvold from Orkney.
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Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on December 20, 2014, 03:25:00 PM: Quote from: SetonHallPirate on December 20, 2014, 02:44:40 PM
Cleveland State 24, Indiana 13...

That's similar to losing to a non-D1 program
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Post by: southend on December 20, 2014, 08:44:00 PM: Carolinablue, I know you have a wrestler on the IU team, and I think the loyalty you have would be the same I would with an athlete on the team. But facts are facts, proof is in the pudding. Pipe dream or not , the hoosiers are a thing of the past. And believe it or not, this IS Duane Goldmans LAST year at Indiana. So all the wrestlers need to be making plans for next year.
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Post by: brycemus on December 20, 2014, 09:15:30 PM: The plan should be to be more successful because Goldman is one of the worst coaches of Any sport on Any team in the U.S. anand anyone they hire will be an improvement
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Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on December 20, 2014, 10:12:40 PM: Quote from: southend on December 20, 2014, 08:44:00 PM
Carolinablue, I know you have a wrestler on the IU team, and I think the loyalty you have would be the same I would with an athlete on the team. But facts are facts, proof is in the pudding. Pipe dream or not , the hoosiers are a thing of the past. And believe it or not, this IS Duane Goldmans LAST year at Indiana. So all the wrestlers need to be making plans for next year.

If Goldman is out I just wish Herb would be here to finally see it
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Post by: Rockhard on December 22, 2014, 04:14:11 PM: Someone needs to take the article when Goldman finally quits or retires to Herb's grave, so he can finally RIP.
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Post by: southend on December 22, 2014, 04:24:04 PM: Quote from: Rockhard on December 22, 2014, 04:14:11 PM
Someone needs to take the article when Goldman finally quits or retires to Herb's grave, so he can finally RIP.
Or someone hires him away from Indiana? ;D
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Post by: Carolinablue on December 27, 2014, 08:36:45 PM: Southbaend, you are correct loyalty is the blood-line. IU needs to bring in a true light-weight coach who works with all wrestlers on their feet. After the Wisconsin dual it was evident that is where we need help. With our light weight coach spending his time with the middle weight and Goldman not able to wrestle neutral we are exposed.

IU lost several recruits over the last couple of years, I heard last year it was them not the coaches but the wrestlers.

I just wish they would set a line-up so the kids know where they stand
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Post by: LoSt on December 29, 2014, 10:36:04 PM: Ye gods... I don't blame a guy for being biased where family is concerned. so carolina gets a pass. But 0 offensive point shutout? Against WISCONSIN?? Who themselves are in the bottom half of the b10
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Post by: LILHOWDOG on December 29, 2014, 11:18:05 PM: IU takes a duo to day 2 of the midlands.
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Post by: Carolinablue on December 30, 2014, 11:09:27 PM: Hopefully Herb can help with the weight certification issues this year at IU. How do we have no 125 in line up with one quitting this year and kids having to be up two weights. I hope IU administration gets the details as to what happen with certification. Whoever made the mistake needs to be held accountable. Was it the coaches or new trainer

It s time IU addresses these issues and makes changes. We need to look internally and ask if these coaches made wrestlers better
We bring in E Strangler as he likes to be called and touts himself at tourneys, what has he done to grow our light weights. It's time
Goldman moves on and we hold the rest of staff accountable. If they want to grow their image it can not be at the kids expense.
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Post by: Gantry on December 30, 2014, 11:53:09 PM: God I love watching Taylor Walsh wrestler, never stops going for it. I'm a NW fan and belt bad for Harger but you couldn't help but smile there.
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Post by: SingletSlinger on April 06, 2017, 12:09:56 PM: Herb might be rising from the grave soon.
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Post by: Brew on April 06, 2017, 11:09:27 PM: What are you hearing ss?
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Post by: regulator130 on April 07, 2017, 08:25:53 AM: I heard Angel is coming on as an assistant, possibly head assistant. Are you hearing more?
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Post by: brycemus on April 07, 2017, 09:42:14 AM: I hope he is gone he has been nothing but a BLIGHT on that program
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Post by: Brew on April 07, 2017, 07:46:44 PM: Who Simmons or Goldman or both?
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Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on April 07, 2017, 11:16:49 PM: Quote from: Brew on April 07, 2017, 07:46:44 PM
Who Simmons or Goldman or both?

Yes
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Post by: southend on April 08, 2017, 04:43:55 AM: Fred you almost lost your job this year, over the basketball program. The alums said , somebodys going, Tom Crean or you. Fred, This job is over your head. Its to bad the alumni for wrestling is so weak at Indiana. But come on, what a joke. Only attraction, that this job posting will get, will be from desperate men looking to break into coaching. DEAD end job! don't do it!
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Post by: southend on April 08, 2017, 04:45:52 AM: By the way, Herb hasn't stopped rolling.
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Post by: SingletSlinger on April 19, 2017, 09:20:02 AM: Escobedo replaces Simmons, will there be any more changes?
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Post by: Jointdoc55 on April 21, 2017, 05:30:53 AM: I miss Herb. I never met him but I talked to him on the phone on several occasions.
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Post by: brycemus on April 21, 2017, 09:56:58 AM: his knowledge of the program, past and present was incredible. his knowledge about just wrestling was amazing too. he was a great resource and I thought of him as a friend.
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Post by: southend on April 22, 2017, 06:02:03 AM: Quote from: brycemus on April 21, 2017, 09:56:58 AM
his knowledge of the program, past and present was incredible. his knowledge about just wrestling was amazing too. he was a great resource and I thought of him as a friend.

This
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Post by: Brew on April 22, 2017, 11:07:46 PM: Since Angel has been coaching who has he helped develop?
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Post by: southend on April 24, 2017, 02:03:27 AM: Quote from: SingletSlinger on April 19, 2017, 09:20:02 AM
Escobedo replaces Simmons, will there be any more changes?
Is this really a change? Mike Mena, Joe D., Simmons, the list goes on with no team improvement, year after year. BIG basement dwellers. No good established assistant coach would even give Indiana a sniff. Indiana just gets pushed lower and lower on the NCAA wrestling pecking order. Good luck Escobedo. Sorry you didn't get a real program to coach .Something will open up for you.