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Title: Most Difficult
Post by: buck on November 12, 2015, 10:46:51 AM
We all have different insights as to what makes their sport so hard.   Start the debate.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: ViseGrip on November 12, 2015, 12:01:36 PM
6 AM Wrestling practice on a hangover.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: buck on November 12, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
Michael Jordan was generally regarded to be a super athlete but was totally lost trying to hit a baseball in the minor leagues.  Hitting a 95 mph fastball when you have about 1 second to react is incredibly difficult.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: Cougar1 on November 12, 2015, 02:33:33 PM
Michael Jordan was generally regarded to be a super athlete but was totally lost trying to hit a baseball in the minor leagues.  Hitting a 95 mph fastball when you have about 1 second to react is incredibly difficult.
One of Hank Aaron's teammates asked him how he was so effective at the plate and Hank said something about seeing the stitches on the ball as it comes to the plate. The guy laughed out loud "I can't even see the stitches".
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: ViseGrip on November 12, 2015, 03:48:50 PM
Michael Jordan was generally regarded to be a super athlete but was totally lost trying to hit a baseball in the minor leagues.  Hitting a 95 mph fastball when you have about 1 second to react is incredibly difficult.
Actually its hitting that major league curveball consistently that separates the major from the minor leagues.

From a skill level, I'd say golf.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: brycemus on November 12, 2015, 06:17:12 PM
Golf becomes straight muscle memory and loads of old fat guys knock it stiff off the tee
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: Intensity guru on November 12, 2015, 06:25:40 PM
Putting the ball in play is not the same as getting a base hit.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: Ray Brinzer on November 12, 2015, 10:25:55 PM
Losing > 12% of your body weight in a few hours may be stupid, but it's a task in sports, and it's brutal.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: fsgrecofolk on November 13, 2015, 12:28:14 AM
I never understood the hard weight cutting rationale.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: TobusRex on November 18, 2015, 12:06:27 AM
Hitting a goddamn baseball? Are you kidding me? A RETARD can hit a goddamn baseball. Half the little leaguers in the country are batting .300 or better...yeah, really hard.

Most people's "proof" that hitting a baseball is so hard was Ted Williams saying it was hard.  Yup, no vested interest in that answer, huh Ted? Way to glorify yourself. That's like Cael Sanderson saying wrestling is the most cerebral sport.

Running a marathon is the toughest thing on that list and nothing else is close. Running sucks.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: mspart on November 18, 2015, 02:24:22 PM
Tiddlywinks takes an amazing amount of concentration and coordination.  It's either that or Pick Up Sticks!!

mspart
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: buck on November 18, 2015, 02:31:54 PM
Hitting a goddamn baseball? Are you kidding me? A RETARD can hit a goddamn baseball.

 - My son is retarded and he can't hit a baseball.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: Cougar1 on November 18, 2015, 05:24:01 PM
Hitting a goddamn baseball? Are you kidding me? A RETARD can hit a goddamn baseball.

 - My son is retarded and he can't hit a baseball.
I think Toby was offering up some personal experience there. Don't be too hard on him.  ;)
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: n9531l on November 18, 2015, 11:03:37 PM
You omitted landing on a 2000' runway in a 30 knot crosswind.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: buck on November 19, 2015, 10:21:07 AM
No more a sport than competitive eating.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: n9531l on November 19, 2015, 02:45:48 PM
If you're certificated as a Sport Pilot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_certification_in_the_United_States), would it be a sport?
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: TobusRex on November 20, 2015, 04:59:26 AM
If you're certificated as a Sport Pilot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_certification_in_the_United_States), would it be a sport?

Sure. People think NASCAR drivers are athletes, but piloting kicks the crap out of driving.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: RYou on November 20, 2015, 09:05:27 PM
Dunking a basketball.....


........when your are 5'4".
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: Intensity guru on November 21, 2015, 07:43:43 PM
Hitting a baseball is not that difficult. Getting a base hit in MLB is very difficult. 60% failure rate = HoF.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: ocianain on November 21, 2015, 08:25:26 PM
Pole vaulters are crazy people.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: RYou on November 22, 2015, 05:54:28 PM
Surviving 45 minutes of boxing without getting KO'd.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: buck on November 23, 2015, 08:28:26 PM
Impossible.  Rounds are either 6, 8, 10 or 12.  Three minutes each.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: RYou on November 24, 2015, 06:14:13 PM
Surviving 45 36 minutes of boxing without getting KO'd.

Forget they cut it back to 12 rounds Kim died from fighting Mancini. 
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: buck on November 24, 2015, 08:23:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e8jRdW73Sg

Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: fsgrecofolk on November 24, 2015, 09:58:56 PM
Boxing is barbaric
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: TobusRex on November 25, 2015, 02:42:54 AM
Boxing is barbaric

Says the guy from a sport notorious for breaking arms in MMA, lol.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: buck on November 25, 2015, 07:21:42 AM
Emile Griffith was a fabulous boxer who just happened to be gay.  ESPN did a 30/30 on Emile a few years ago, thought you all would be interested in this story.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/10/boxer-emile-griffith-gay-taunts-book-extract
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: fsgrecofolk on November 25, 2015, 12:23:32 PM
I don't like MMA much either but for different reasons.  I wonder if having large padded boxing gloves allows for more damage over the course of the fight.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: ocianain on November 25, 2015, 06:16:52 PM
Emile Griffith was a fabulous boxer who just happened to be gay.  ESPN did a 30/30 on Emile a few years ago, thought you all would be interested in this story.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/10/boxer-emile-griffith-gay-taunts-book-extract

Tragic story. I may get the book though.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: fsgrecofolk on November 25, 2015, 06:19:44 PM
If you look at the youtube link, there are some related videos of other fighters that died in the ring.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: ocianain on November 25, 2015, 06:33:01 PM
If you look at the youtube link, there are some related videos of other fighters that died in the ring.

Boxing is funeral sport. You see this clearly in the Iliad when boxing (along with wrestling, and running) are contested at the funeral of Patroclus. Some of the sports contested may bring the participant close to death (running, boxing an wrestling), these were the most highly valued. You're correct regarding boxings nature, it is barbaric. There is also a powerful existentialist appeal to it. Strange "sport"
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: fsgrecofolk on November 25, 2015, 07:16:29 PM
Boxing, wrestling, mma, and other martial arts appeal to our most basic primal instincts which is fight or flight, and in this case the emphasis is on fight.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: ViseGrip on December 01, 2015, 01:57:52 PM
Hitting a long straight tee shot is not the biggest challenge in golf. Try sinking that 15 foot putt on an undulating green.

Its putting that makes a pro player not driving.
Title: Re: Most Difficult
Post by: TobusRex on December 01, 2015, 10:31:24 PM
If you look at the youtube link, there are some related videos of other fighters that died in the ring.

Boxing is funeral sport. You see this clearly in the Iliad when boxing (along with wrestling, and running) are contested at the funeral of Patroclus. Some of the sports contested may bring the participant close to death (running, boxing an wrestling), these were the most highly valued. You're correct regarding boxings nature, it is barbaric. There is also a powerful existentialist appeal to it. Strange "sport"

Boxing was different back then. The boxers usually wore leather gauntlets with metal studs. Fights usually went until one or the other was dead. On the other hand you didn't have to worry about fights being fixed (unlike 99% of the pro matches today).