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Title: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Brew on January 01, 2016, 12:23:32 AM
At hwt
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Brew on January 01, 2016, 12:26:06 AM
http://m.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/m/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/123115aag.html
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 01, 2016, 01:27:03 AM
Gwiz v Snyder?  Hope it happens
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Snackem on January 01, 2016, 02:00:30 AM
While it's exciting to see, I don't see how this makes sense for Kyle and his gold medal quest.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 01, 2016, 03:46:24 AM
It won't help or hinder.  The season ends in March.  He is still wrestling at the Yarygin.  He will get some tune ups between now, the trials and the games.  He will be fine.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on January 01, 2016, 04:00:08 AM
Tom Ryan continues to function under the delusion he can win another title this year
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: RYou on January 01, 2016, 06:29:02 AM
Tom Ryan continues to function under the delusion he can win another title this year

Well, now they should be scoring big tourney points at 285, where PSU is likely to get skunked with Nevills out.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: LoSt on January 01, 2016, 11:19:42 AM
Tom Ryan continues to function under the delusion he can win another title this year

With Snyder in the lineup I do not think its that much of a stretch any longer
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on January 01, 2016, 12:12:00 PM
Tom Ryan continues to function under the delusion he can win another title this year

With Snyder in the lineup I do not think its that much of a stretch any longer

I'd still be extremely surprised if they pull it off, they weren't exactly in a "just one missing piece" situation
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 01, 2016, 12:39:26 PM
Hunter Stieber is still big question mark.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: brycemus on January 01, 2016, 01:15:36 PM
the answer is he is done ... a broken shell of a man
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 01, 2016, 02:21:03 PM
Is he even wrestling?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: buck on January 01, 2016, 04:31:03 PM
Not sure why anyone thinks Snyder would be a factor at 285?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: brycemus on January 01, 2016, 04:33:03 PM
until he wrestles a top 8 guy I will hold back judgement
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: buck on January 01, 2016, 05:03:25 PM
Sam Stall will envelop him with his milky white blubbery skin, Snyder won't be able to breath.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 01, 2016, 05:54:15 PM
I bet he holds his own.  He could be a finalist if he is on the opposite side of Gwiz.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: brycemus on January 01, 2016, 06:18:50 PM
you mean on Adam Coon's side potentially?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 01, 2016, 06:36:54 PM
I think he can beat Coon.  I think he can beat Gwiz too for that matter.  He weighs around 220 I think and I see no reason why he can't be a factor.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: brycemus on January 01, 2016, 07:24:40 PM
I don't think he beats Hall! Gwiziadowski is the best heavyweight we have seen in 10 plus years
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: buck on January 01, 2016, 07:47:13 PM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: regulator130 on January 02, 2016, 08:32:14 AM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.

This looks like a strong trolling effort, but I'll bite.

He wrestles with Tervel in the room all the time.  I'm sure they wouldn't make this move if they didn't think he could win it.  Gwiz is incredible. But not the wrestler Gadisov is,  I would pick Gadisov in a match up there.  I would still say Gwiz is the favorite but Snyder is a world champ at the hardest weight class in the world. He can win heavyweight at Ncaas.  I don't think Coons girth will factor it when Snyder is finishing a low ankle shot. 
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: brycemus on January 02, 2016, 10:04:20 AM
Gwiaz may be the Most dominant heavyweight we have seen in more than a decade and certainly in the last 10 years.  You may not remember how Snyder's last folkstyle match ended, but I do.  It ended up with him counting the lights.  That was against a wrestler who was certainly not the most dominant athlete at his weight.  Gwiaz is far and away the best at the weight. 
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: buck on January 02, 2016, 10:34:25 AM
Not trolling at all, Snyder isn't close to being an elite 285.  Waste of a redshirt.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: brycemus on January 02, 2016, 10:42:55 AM
If this means he can't take another Oly shirt it would for sure be a waste
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: regulator130 on January 02, 2016, 11:31:27 AM
I don't think it's the right move for Snyder. Bc to win the Olympics all his focus needs to be on freestyle wrestling. Not folkstyle and not reentering school( which no one is mentioning). But to to think someone who beat Gadisov cant defeat our USA heavyweights is crazy. Gatsalov lost to Gadisov and bumped up as a very small heavyweight and won worlds!

The Snyder at 197 is vastly different than the Snyder we saw wrestle at 211. His foot work was vastly different. His foot work is what sets up all his offense and makes his defense incredible. Not sure if it's the weight loss that causes that but it is my theory. I think we will see the Snyder that won the worlds and he is right there with Gwizz. I think his problem will be with larger heavyweights that have top game. Gwizz isn't won of those. Snyder has been planning on switching to hwt  no matter when he came back. 197 is out forever. This isn't something not well thought out. Besides Gwizz being there why is it a difference from wrestling this year from next year? Since you guys seem to think he will lose to more than just Gwizz. You are basically saying he will never be a NCAA champion. To which I strongly disagree.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: regulator130 on January 02, 2016, 11:41:01 AM
Not trolling at all, Snyder isn't close to being an elite 285.  Waste of a redshirt.

The reason I said it is trolling is before I posted there was 20 or so post on this and 3 of them were you expressing the exact same opinion. You either really want people to get your view point or it's trolling.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: LoSt on January 02, 2016, 11:49:55 AM
the answer is he is done ... a broken shell of a man

Thanks Bryce.  I had my doubts about Stieber, but now that I know you've made this prediction I can rest easy knowing he'll be fine
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: brycemus on January 02, 2016, 12:07:39 PM
I am just surprised Flo doesn't have him top 6 like they did with Alton all the way til Big 10s last year. That is usually the kiss of death
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: TobusRex on January 02, 2016, 01:33:28 PM
Snyder will certainly be competitive at HWT, but I can't see him being the favorite against Gwiz. For that matter Snyder won't be outmuscling many folks at HWT, He might be in for a big surprise.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: goStanford18 on January 02, 2016, 01:54:01 PM
I find some of these posts quite amusing.

Here are some of my thoughts--some are facts; some are opinion:

1. Snyder recently won a World Title at 97kg (213lbs) in Freestyle.
2. Snyder was competing at 220lbs by his Sophomore year in high school (don't remember which weight he was at his freshman year).
3. Snyder easily walks north of 220 lbs and is 5'11.
4. Snyder rolls around with the United States' best heavyweight on a daily basis--Tervel has been makin the World Team for quite awhile now, and he has placed a few times at the Worlds.
5. Snyder has improved by an incredible amount since last year's NCAA Finals. We really need to get this straight: last year Kyle had losses to Burak, McIntosh, and Gadson (2x). 3 of his losses were close decisions. In the other, he got stuck onto his back. A few months later in the U.S.Open/World Team Trials, he teched guys like Dustin Kilgore and went 3-0 against 2012 Olympic Champ Jake Varner. I honestly don't think Snyder's 4 losses last year are valid arguments into justifying he will not do well at Heavyweight.
6. The "shouldn't compete at NCAA's because he is preparing for the Olympics" argument is really beating a dead horse. This is always argued and usually doesn't lead anywhere. My only fear is the possibility of injury (but these are unpredictable); I suppose the chances of injury increase since he'll be rolling around with bigger dudes.
7. Gwiazdowski advertises himself as 6'0 and 265lbs (according to his Twitter).
8. Gwiazdowski is one of the best heavyweights in recent memory and has a shot in cementing himself as one of the all-time greats by winning 3 titles this year.
9. Snyder is only advertised for a few matches. If you analyze it just the tiniest bit, Snyder is really just going to wrestle at the Big 10s and NCAAs.
10. If Tavanello's upside is a low placement on the podium; I'm sure that is indicative that Tom Ryan, Snyder, and the tOSU team believe Snyder is a sure-fire title competitor.
11. Here's an interesting write-up by Mark Palmer on Heavyweights: http://www.examiner.com/list/what-ncaa-heavyweight-champs-since-2000-actually-weigh

If what Palmer writes is true, Snyder's size shouldn't be a problem. It's impossible to predict how Snyder will do at Heavyweight, but if I had to guess.....he's finishing in the top 4. Gwiazdowski is the man to beat. If he meets with Snyder, I'm expecting it to be a very, very close match.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on January 02, 2016, 02:08:28 PM
I personally don't doubt Snyder will succeed at heavyweight, I don't think he will win it but he will succeed.

But this move was made solely because Ohio State thinks they can win the national title with him, same reason Bo dropped to 165 even though he won't beat Dieringer. Really I think even with those changes Ohio State doesn't win a national title, they're really just hurting their top level goals for an unrealistic short term goal
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: TobusRex on January 02, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
I don't think it's a good move by Ryan, if that is his thinking Falcon. What about all the points they are giving up at 197? Who is going to fill that?

This isn't OSU's year. No way they beat Iowa or PSU even if Snyder somehow pins his way through NCAAs (which wouldn't happen anyway).
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on January 02, 2016, 05:11:13 PM
I don't think it's a good move by Ryan, if that is his thinking Falcon. What about all the points they are giving up at 197? Who is going to fill that?

This isn't OSU's year. No way they beat Iowa or PSU even if Snyder somehow pins his way through NCAAs (which wouldn't happen anyway).

What other explanation is there for making Bo leave a weight he could win for one he won't and for making Snyder give up his Olympic redshirt?

I'm with you, I think it's a terrible and delusional move but Ryan seems to think they can pull it off
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: RYou on January 02, 2016, 06:43:16 PM
Jordan was sucked out last year.   He's sucking muscle mass which is of no benefit.  No way he would be effective come March.  He'll be a force come March at 174.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Jointdoc55 on January 02, 2016, 09:10:47 PM
Tom Ryan continues to function under the delusion he can win another title this year
Yea. The same delusion he had last year.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Jointdoc55 on January 02, 2016, 09:20:05 PM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.

This looks like a strong trolling effort, but I'll bite.

He wrestles with Tervel in the room all the time.  I'm sure they wouldn't make this move if they didn't think he could win it.  Gwiz is incredible. But not the wrestler Gadisov is,  I would pick Gadisov in a match up there.  I would still say Gwiz is the favorite but Snyder is a world champ at the hardest weight class in the world. He can win heavyweight at Ncaas.  I don't think Coons girth will factor it when Snyder is finishing a low ankle shot.

This is the key. I think he finishes top 3, and probably #1.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: brycemus on January 02, 2016, 09:50:06 PM
Sigbet!!!
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on January 02, 2016, 10:13:39 PM
Sigbet!!!

I'd sigbet on Ohio State's title chances
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Jointdoc55 on January 03, 2016, 08:13:28 AM
Sigbet!!!
Sigbet: I say Snyder finishes top 3 if he goes at heavyweight.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: MC2 on January 03, 2016, 08:38:47 AM
After watching Synder win worlds, I'm not betting against him.  This is not saying he wins NCAA's, however, to be in attendance and watch his will to win Worlds is a true testament of this kid's character, the kid surprised us at worlds, lets all just watch and see what happens. 
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: TobusRex on January 03, 2016, 10:09:01 AM
After watching Synder win worlds, I'm not betting against him.  This is not saying he wins NCAA's, however, to be in attendance and watch his will to win Worlds is a true testament of this kid's character, the kid surprised us at worlds, lets all just watch and see what happens.

He's an amazing wrestler, but it takes more than amazing to overcome strength/weight differences. I can't imagine Snyder hanging against a big, strong heavy. It takes a lot of technique to overcome a strength advantage. I could see Snyder beating Gwiz, but I can't see him beating a rock like Coon. I think against smaller heavies that Snyder will do quite well but the big boys....well, Snyder may be in for a rude surprise. One thing is for sure....he probably won't be outquicked by anybody. Not that it will help much when Coon ties up with him, lol.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Brew on January 03, 2016, 10:21:30 AM
One thing to keep in mind he has been having countless two minute goes with Coon at the otc for quite awhile...I imagine he knows what he is dealing with.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: ronsnap on January 03, 2016, 10:43:18 AM
I think Snyder is strong enough and agile enough to be competitive.  I think he'll be a Zabriskie type only a better wrestler.  If he doesn't get hurt I think this only helps his training.  Hope he stays healthy.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: TobusRex on January 03, 2016, 11:08:58 AM
One thing to keep in mind he has been having countless two minute goes with Coon at the otc for quite awhile...I imagine he knows what he is dealing with.

Good point. Still...the difference in freestyle and collegiate is pretty significant at heavy. One of those periods Snyder is going to be on bottom. Maybe being fast will be enough to get out, if not he's going to find it an unpleasant experience.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Brew on January 03, 2016, 05:37:00 PM
If you have interest in this thread you should read this...
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-wrestling/2015/12/65720/kyle-snyder-forgoes-olympic-redshirt-for-a-run-at-ncaa-title
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: TobusRex on January 03, 2016, 06:50:50 PM
Thanks Brew.  I enjoyed it. I hope Snyder thrives at heavyweight. Nice to see a guy not sucking down to make a weight.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: RYou on January 03, 2016, 07:05:59 PM
If you have interest in this thread you should read this...
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-wrestling/2015/12/65720/kyle-snyder-forgoes-olympic-redshirt-for-a-run-at-ncaa-title

"He will return for Ohio State's Feb. 5 dual meet at No. 1 Penn State, traveling to compete in a pair of international competitions prior to that."


He'll weigh in and PSU will forfeit rather than expose Johnson to embarrassment.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 03, 2016, 10:02:34 PM
He is going to go in the B1G with only a couple matches.  I think Ray Brinzer entered with a 0-0 record once.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Gantry on January 03, 2016, 10:23:17 PM
Should be VERY interesting, especially if Hunter comes back
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Gantry on January 03, 2016, 10:26:45 PM
...I should say at full strength
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: RYou on January 04, 2016, 06:58:57 AM
He is going to go in the B1G with only a couple matches.  I think Ray Brinzer entered with a 0-0 record once.

Nope, Penn State, tournament travel, according to Snyder.  Then B1Gs with likely a 1-0 forfeit.  Should make for an interesting seeding for the tournament committee.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: TobusRex on January 05, 2016, 08:56:31 AM
Should be VERY interesting, especially if Hunter comes back

Hope so for selfish reasons (I picked him on my preseason team) and non-selfish (hate to see a kid wash out because of injuries). Hope when he does come back he'll be full strength, or at least able to go out on a high note and AA again.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: ViseGrip on January 05, 2016, 02:01:10 PM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.
Speaking of sigbets... what about this one?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Brew on January 05, 2016, 03:52:44 PM
Someone should sigbet buck on his belief that Riddick will win a national championship....full disclosure Riddick went 0-2 at the southern scuffle.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Jointdoc55 on January 08, 2016, 12:20:32 PM
If you have interest in this thread you should read this...
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-wrestling/2015/12/65720/kyle-snyder-forgoes-olympic-redshirt-for-a-run-at-ncaa-title
Thanks for the link. I thought it was a very good interview. Of course it remains to be seen how it will work out. If I'm predicting, I say Snyder will be top 3 in Hwt. I will not say it's a guarantee. It seems like several on here are pretty clear in saying that "there is no way he succeeds". I think it is a mistake to fall on one's sword like that.

I proposed a sigbet a few days ago, and no one has taken me up on it. I will toss it out there again:

Sigbet: If Kyle Snyder wrestles heavyweight at the NCAAs he finishes top 3.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: TobusRex on January 08, 2016, 04:59:24 PM
I think top 3 is definitely within his range. I just worry that he'll get hurt against the bigger guys. I guess he's been wrestling Tervel and Coon in practice a lot so he knows what he's doing.

Even if he was guaranteed a national championship this year at 197 it would be pretty stupid to pull down, so I get Snyder's decision. He's already a World Champ, why wreck his weight control to pull down for college? I guess we college fans are just a bit....greedy. 
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Jointdoc55 on January 21, 2016, 09:08:26 AM
Snyder made an early return to the tOSU line for the Nebraska match on January 17th. He won a 20-9 major decision over Nebraska's Colin Jensen, ranked #17 at the time. He looked big enough to be competitive at Hwt. To me he looked a bit gassed in the 1st period, but then found his pace and rolled to the win.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: TobusRex on January 21, 2016, 03:02:24 PM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.
Speaking of sigbets... what about this one?

He might not take a sigbet but I will.

I bet Snyder will not win the HWT title at NCAAs this year. You taking the bet?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: ViseGrip on January 21, 2016, 04:54:11 PM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.
Speaking of sigbets... what about this one?

He might not take a sigbet but I will.

I bet Snyder will not win the HWT title at NCAAs this year. You taking the bet?
Buck was asserting he wouldnt place not that he wouldnt win.
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Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.

Thats the sig bet. Thats the one Im offering.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: buck on January 21, 2016, 06:39:51 PM
I still say he doesn't place.  I'll be at Nationals so I'll buy everyone a hotdog if I'm wrong ( limited offer:  20)
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: LILHOWDOG on January 21, 2016, 08:43:38 PM
I still say he doesn't place.  I'll be at Nationals so I'll buy everyone a hotdog if I'm wrong ( limited offer:  20)

Don't they call them franks in NYC? or red hots?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: RYou on January 21, 2016, 09:17:54 PM
Nope, plain old hot dog in NY.  New York owns the "hot dog".  Frankfurters or "franks" are German sausages but not sold in a bun.

Harry M. Stevens, the stadium concessionaire sold sausages on rolls at the old New York Polo Grounds in the winter during NY Giant football games. He called them "Dachshund sandwiches" because the shape looked like the dog. A New York Post cartoonist couldn't spell dachshund, so when he drew a cartoon, he called them "hot dogs".  They became so popular at the football games, he started selling them year round and at the NY Giant baseball games.

You'll find "red hots" in North Carolina.  They have a unique unnatural casing that makes them distinctively red.

FYI, worst regional dog... In Seattle, hot dogs are served with cream cheese and grilled onions on a toasted bun.  Make sure you ask before you buy in Seattle.  One bite and you'll toss it with disappointment.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: LILHOWDOG on January 21, 2016, 09:44:15 PM
Nope, plain old hot dog in NY.  New York owns the "hot dog".  Frankfurters or "franks" are German sausages but not sold in a bun.

Harry M. Stevens, the stadium concessionaire sold sausages on rolls at the old New York Polo Grounds in the winter during NY Giant football games. He called them "Dachshund sandwiches" because the shape looked like the dog. A New York Post cartoonist couldn't spell dachshund, so when he drew a cartoon, he called them "hot dogs".  They became so popular at the football games, he started selling them year round and at the NY Giant baseball games.

You'll find "red hots" in North Carolina.  They have a unique unnatural casing that makes them distinctively red.

FYI, worst regional dog... In Seattle, hot dogs are served with cream cheese and grilled onions on a toasted bun.  Make sure you ask before you buy in Seattle.  One bite and you'll toss it with disappointment.

Nice info.  Cream Cheese is usually good on anything but it doesnt sound right for a dog.  Chicago dogs have chopped onions among about 5 other items on it.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: buck on January 22, 2016, 08:10:55 AM
It's really quite a gesture on my part.  Dogs at MSG are a minimum $10/each.  Hoping for an early couple of upsets.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: RYou on January 22, 2016, 08:27:18 AM
It's really quite a gesture on my part.  Dogs at MSG are a minimum $10/each.  Hoping for an early couple of upsets.

$10 beers too.  Noshing can easily set you back more than the price of the seat for the session.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: buck on January 22, 2016, 09:18:28 AM
Not sure if beers will be allowed?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: ViseGrip on January 22, 2016, 10:17:02 AM
I still say he doesn't place.  I'll be at Nationals so I'll buy everyone a hotdog if I'm wrong ( limited offer:  20)
What about that sig bet?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: buck on January 22, 2016, 10:20:39 AM
Sure, what do you propose?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: ViseGrip on January 22, 2016, 10:24:53 AM
Sure, what do you propose?

Well this is kinda like taking candy from a baby... but I love candy.

If Snyder places in the top 8 at this year's NCAA I win, if not you win.

Two weeks ownership of the other's sig line is the prize.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: buck on January 22, 2016, 10:31:37 AM
Seems fair. 
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Gantry on January 22, 2016, 12:04:58 PM
Not sure if beers will be allowed?

They won't, was pretty fun to have them at the Worlds.  Beer and wrestling is quite fun...  well, so is beer and anything.

I still say he doesn't place.  I'll be at Nationals so I'll buy everyone a hotdog if I'm wrong ( limited offer:  20)

It's OK, I can only eat 13 or 14 hot dogs before I get sleepy. 

Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: brycemus on January 22, 2016, 12:09:53 PM
I wonder if Joey Chestnut is a wrestling fan
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 22, 2016, 02:04:34 PM
I worked for Sigman meat one summer in college.  We would set aside some from the morning run of hotdogs, brats, and polish and put them in the smokehouse so they would be ready at lunch.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: ViseGrip on January 22, 2016, 02:09:22 PM
Someone donated a whole pig to be smoked for my son's wrestling banquet one year and I got to help carve it up. Talk about a labor of love! I was stuffed to the gills before the dinner was even served!
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: LILHOWDOG on January 22, 2016, 02:31:40 PM
Someone donated a whole pig to be smoked for my son's wrestling banquet one year and I got to help carve it up. Talk about a labor of love! I was stuffed to the gills before the dinner was even served!

A buddy and I did the same for a class reunion.  Probably ate 3 pounds before the event.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: TobusRex on January 22, 2016, 07:28:13 PM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.
Speaking of sigbets... what about this one?

He might not take a sigbet but I will.

I bet Snyder will not win the HWT title at NCAAs this year. You taking the bet?
Buck was asserting he wouldnt place not that he wouldnt win.
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Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.

Thats the sig bet. Thats the one Im offering.

Grow a pair. 2 week sig bet....Snyder won't win the national title at HWT. Jump, froggy.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: RYou on January 22, 2016, 08:20:27 PM
Not sure if beers will be allowed?

NCAA has no rule opposing beers and it's a private venue.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Thunderbird on March 18, 2016, 06:09:38 PM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.

Probably the dumbest post I have ever seen on a message board.  What an idiot
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Cougar1 on March 18, 2016, 08:03:43 PM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.

Probably the dumbest post I have ever seen on a message board.  What an idiot
I doubt it. buck has quite a history.  :D
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Ray Brinzer on March 18, 2016, 08:21:02 PM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.

Probably the dumbest post I have ever seen on a message board.  What an idiot

We don't allow name-calling here. Please don't do that again.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: BigJ on March 18, 2016, 11:39:54 PM
His gas tank looked full in semi's.  Gwiz's not so full, taking Synder in final.  Should be a great battle.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: leglace on March 19, 2016, 10:37:01 AM
His gas tank looked full in semi's.  Gwiz's not so full, taking Synder in final.  Should be a great battle.

I like Snyder's chances. This was the best HWT semifinal I can recall. We had 4 exciting hwts who are very athletic and highly skilled. We came a long way since the Lockhart days.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Cougar1 on March 19, 2016, 12:49:42 PM
His gas tank looked full in semi's.  Gwiz's not so full, taking Synder in final.  Should be a great battle.

I like Snyder's chances. This was the best HWT semifinal I can recall. We had 4 exciting hwts who are very athletic and highly skilled. We came a long way since the Lockhart days.
^This
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: fsgrecofolk on March 19, 2016, 01:49:22 PM
I want Gwiz but I have a feeling Snyder is going to get 2 TDs and pull it off.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: regulator130 on March 19, 2016, 10:46:14 PM
Let's just leave this at the top for a while... :) :)
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Brew on March 19, 2016, 10:57:00 PM
We were lucky to witness that...what an incredible match!!!!
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: fsgrecofolk on March 19, 2016, 11:14:11 PM
Great match, it was in Gwiz's grasp. 
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Hardcore on March 20, 2016, 08:38:35 AM
It was an exciting match. I am sad that I will not see Gwiaz wrestler another folkstyle match. I have followed him since he was a 7th grader in our local high school and it was my pleasure to watch him grow and mature as a wrestler. I wish him well in whatever endeavor he chooses to pursue.A fine your man and a credit to our sport. War Gwiaz! 
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Jointdoc55 on March 20, 2016, 08:57:07 AM
Snyder won't place, about the dumbest decision that a kid could make.  Waste of a year.

This looks like a strong trolling effort, but I'll bite.

He wrestles with Tervel in the room all the time.  I'm sure they wouldn't make this move if they didn't think he could win it.  Gwiz is incredible. But not the wrestler Gadisov is,  I would pick Gadisov in a match up there.  I would still say Gwiz is the favorite but Snyder is a world champ at the hardest weight class in the world. He can win heavyweight at Ncaas.  I don't think Coons girth will factor it when Snyder is finishing a low ankle shot.

This is the key. I think he finishes top 3, and probably #1.

 :)
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Jointdoc55 on March 20, 2016, 08:59:29 AM
Sigbet!!!
Sigbet: I say Snyder finishes top 3 if he goes at heavyweight.
So, was that a sig bet, or what?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: RYou on March 20, 2016, 06:38:11 PM
Interesting trend for 285 repeat seniors

2016 - Snyder over Gwiazdowski
2015 - Gwiazdowski over Coon
2014 - Gwiazdowski  over Nelson
2013 - Nelson over McMullan
2012 - Nelson over Rey
2011 - Rey over Flores
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: ViseGrip on March 21, 2016, 10:14:19 AM
Sigbet!!!
Sigbet: I say Snyder finishes top 3 if he goes at heavyweight.
So, was that a sig bet, or what?

No... he didnt acknowledge yours... but he sure did mine. Now we'll see if he is a man of honor.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: MetsFan on March 21, 2016, 02:22:20 PM
Great tourney for both guys.  Rhetorical question (sorta) ... Gwiz had an 88 match win streak, meaning he was undefeated for close to three seasons. Why was that not a big story in general sports news?
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: ViseGrip on March 21, 2016, 04:38:58 PM
Great tourney for both guys.  Rhetorical question (sorta) ... Gwiz had an 88 match win streak, meaning he was undefeated for close to three seasons. Why was that not a big story in general sports news?
To be blunt.... Nobody cares unless its some kind of record.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Gantry on March 23, 2016, 07:55:42 PM
It was on Sportscenter or whatever's ESPN equivalent is on Sunday morning. 
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: MetsFan on March 28, 2016, 02:58:24 PM
It was on Sportscenter or whatever's ESPN equivalent is on Sunday morning.

Right, but why not at any point before that ... like maybe last year when he was an undefeated champ on a 50+ match win streak going back a season and a half?  Or during this year as he continued as undefeated 2-time defending champ?  Granted, this stuff was probably presented during coverage of the championships.  I'm talking about at some other time as a general college sports story - not a side note to this coverage.
Title: Re: kyle snyder is back
Post by: Gantry on March 28, 2016, 04:12:40 PM
I hear ya, but until wrestling gets more mainstream fans it isn't going to get mainstream coverage on national media outlets.  I'm sure there are people on the collegiate gymnastics, field hockey, soccer, fencing etc forums saying the same things about their athletes not getting coverage.  You need rare events and big story lines to break out of the media circle most collegiate sports are in.  Not saying its right but that's how it goes...