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Title: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 13, 2016, 05:00:54 PM
Former Nebraska and St Louis Ram football player committed suicide at Kern Valley State Prison. 
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: brycemus on January 13, 2016, 05:04:46 PM
wont' be missed
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 13, 2016, 05:07:36 PM
He was a piece of crap all the way back when he played at Nebraska.  He beat the hell out of a girlfriend at the time and was kicked off the team only to be reinstated. 
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: Bob H. on January 13, 2016, 05:31:28 PM
He was a piece of crap all the way back when he played at Nebraska.  He beat the hell out of a girlfriend at the time and was kicked off the team only to be reinstated.

And was the star in the national championship game.

Then they booted him again, once they had the title in hand.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: TobusRex on January 13, 2016, 05:56:23 PM
Tom Osborne was a scumbag. Yeah, they consider him a saint in Nebraska but the guy brought in thugs and criminals to that campus. Osborne protected rapists so they could play on Saturdays. He bent over backwards to accommodate Philips, who beat the crap out of his pregnant girlfriend.

Sad that Phillips ended that way, but he dug his own hole.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 13, 2016, 05:57:30 PM
He beat another girlfriend later, then hit a bunch of pedestrians with his car.  He also killed a cellmate in prison.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: TobusRex on January 13, 2016, 06:26:53 PM
He beat another girlfriend later, then hit a bunch of pedestrians with his car.  He also killed a cellmate in prison.

Yeah, they kept him isolated after he murdered his cellmate. The wiki article on the guy said he was getting 25 years tacked onto his sentence for crimes he'd committed against a previous girlfriend.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 13, 2016, 06:43:57 PM
He had issues 20 plus years ago and should have been put in jail then.  The guy he murdered was no saint either but still.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: buck on January 13, 2016, 07:25:48 PM
Interesting how little you all know about Lawrence.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 13, 2016, 07:58:05 PM
I know enough that he was a sorry excuse of a human being.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: buck on January 13, 2016, 08:44:01 PM
You seem pretty sure of yourself.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 13, 2016, 08:47:38 PM
He murdered a cellmate, had a history of domestic violence, and ran down pedestrians.  What aspect of his life negates this?
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: buck on January 14, 2016, 08:05:23 AM
You would be a terrible defense attorney.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: Bob H. on January 14, 2016, 10:44:40 AM
But a good juror.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 14, 2016, 01:48:36 PM
I only served on one misdemeanor theft jury.  It was a three person panel for shoplifting.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: TobusRex on January 14, 2016, 05:34:40 PM
You would be a terrible defense attorney.

Would he be as bad as the guy from "Idiocracy"?
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 14, 2016, 06:15:41 PM
If I were his defense attorney, I would do everything possible to protect his rights.  Even scumbags need a vigorous defense.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: buck on January 15, 2016, 07:19:24 AM
JAN. 14, 2014 (letter from Lawrence to his high school coach)

Dear Coach Zane,
How are you doing? I’m doing well. As you might have noticed on the envelope, I have been moved from the cell I was in. I spent some days in the hole for refusing to room with a gang member. They have now took my privileges, which include yard (exercise), canteen, vendor packages, and all personal property for 180 days. I will of course appeal this decision as I was refusing to room with gang members after already having had incidents with gang members.
At any rate, I just wanted to write to you and let you know in case that the package I requested was returned. I have not received any mail since moving, so I do not know if you sent the package. They are supposed to re-route mail, but they usually don’t check and make sure they guy in the cell is the correct guy to receive the mail. At any rate, I will appeal the situation and I should get relief due to my several incidents involving gang members.
We are on lock down at this time due to a murder and the stabbing of five other dudes.
I hope you and your family are well and had a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: buck on January 16, 2016, 08:31:41 AM
Dear Coach Pagone (June 15, 2014),

I received your letter and package a day apart. We do get the packages in lock down as the companies do not really want the items back.

We have been in lock down about 80% of the time. You would be surprised at what these altercations are about! Nonsense! But when your world is this small all one has to care about is nonsense. That is why I do not want any of these idiots in the cell with me.

All they they want to do is the drugs, make knives and make alcohol. Then they say when they get out they will not come back. I tell them of course you will. You are doing the same thing that got you locked up. Of course they do not want to hear that. It is like speaking to a brick wall.

Now I understand how people must have felt talking to me. So needless to say I have zero friends inside here. Not one person is in line with my way of thinking.

Well that's all from here, Pagone. I will stay out of trouble. I might have to endure some write-ups for refusing a cell mate though. Better that than them getting me into serious trouble.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: ViseGrip on January 16, 2016, 02:03:03 PM
Sad
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: buck on January 16, 2016, 03:21:34 PM
JULY 6, 2014

Dear Coach Zane,
I hear you were in Hawaii. I am sure you had a good time. Remember when we went out there and kicked their butt in the all-star game and they tried to hold up our bus and all that crap? Good times.
Well there is not much happening here. We are still on lock down because they found a hacksaw in someone’s cell. Apparently people use the saw to cut up the bunks and make knives. It is completely nuts in here. It is pretty much a free for all.

SEPT. 14, 2014

Dear Coach D,
Huskers kicked butt out there. I only listened to the radio. The game was not televised here. (Nebraska running back Ameer Abdullah) has a real chance at the Heisman and the Huskers could win the Big 10, although the Big 10 is a bit watered down with the injury to O-State Q.B. (Braxton Miller).
NFL is going through some stuff. Unfair to blame the NFL for what guys do. … These misdeeds by the players (are) being used by the liberal parties and the media to further their particular interests. Next they will be forcing out owners like they did with the Los Angeles Clippers owner (Donald Sterling).
Well, there is nothing new happening here. We are still locked down. One of the guards was assaulted so it may be awhile. Coach D, this place is a jungle. Trouble everywhere. One must swallow his pride constantly or one will always be in the hole. But we must deal with the situation we put ourselves in.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 17, 2016, 01:55:12 AM
Yeah he was a real choir boy.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: buck on January 17, 2016, 07:46:38 AM
You've been excused from the jury pool, thank you for your time.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: ViseGrip on January 17, 2016, 02:45:27 PM
The letter writer seems like a different man than the murderer. But they aren't.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: buck on January 17, 2016, 03:17:24 PM
You sir are juror #1.  Welcome.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: Cougar1 on January 25, 2016, 10:12:18 PM
The letter writer seems like a different man than the murderer. But they aren't.
There is always room for redemption.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: ViseGrip on January 26, 2016, 10:00:45 AM
The letter writer seems like a different man than the murderer. But they aren't.
There is always room for redemption.

Unfortunately for Mr Phillips, not all redemptions are permanent.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: ctc on January 26, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Interesting how little you all know about Lawrence.
I guess nobody is as astute in their observations of Lawrence as you are.  Enlighten us as to how wonderful a person he was.  This should be interesting.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 26, 2016, 04:46:29 PM
  Troubled upbringing is no excuse, he was still an abusive piece of crap.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: Cougar1 on January 26, 2016, 09:30:48 PM
  Troubled upbringing is no excuse, he was still an abusive piece of crap.

"was" is a wonderful word when true.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 27, 2016, 01:07:12 PM
It's wrong to celebrate someone's death just because it is bad juju.  He had a hard life but he also made it harder with his violent temper.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: ctc on January 27, 2016, 02:35:18 PM
It's wrong to celebrate someone's death just because it is bad juju.  He had a hard life but he also made it harder with his violent temper.
OK, who is the scalawag that is celebrating his death?
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 27, 2016, 04:49:48 PM
No one is celebrating his death.  I am just pointing out he made his own bed.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: TobusRex on January 27, 2016, 04:57:48 PM
No one is celebrating his death.  I am just pointing out he made his own bed.

That is a lot harder than you think. First off you need materials to make the frame. Pine is cheap, but oak lasts better and is prettier.

Don't even get me started on mattresses.
Title: Re: Lawrence Phillips
Post by: Bob H. on January 27, 2016, 05:49:56 PM
It's wrong to celebrate someone's death just because it is bad juju.  He had a hard life but he also made it harder with his violent temper.

He also made other folks lives much harder with his violent temper.