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Title: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: fsgrecofolk on January 18, 2016, 06:13:25 PM
Another talented musician gone
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: mspart on January 18, 2016, 06:40:46 PM
I just saw this on CNN.  I just saw the Eagle 1.5 years ago in the Tacoma Dome.  It was a good show.  Frey was funny throughout.  He seemed like he was in pretty good shape, I'm surprised he was the first to go.  RIP

mspart
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: Cougar1 on January 18, 2016, 08:00:53 PM
That one took me by surprise.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: ctc on January 18, 2016, 09:00:26 PM
Wow.  Total shock.  I loved his singing the best of all the Eagles.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: RYou on January 18, 2016, 09:49:21 PM
May well be the top band of the 70's, at least right along side of Chicago.  Frey was an Incredible songwriter.  Prior to being brought in as the back-up band for Linda Ronstadt,  Frey, Henley, Meisner and Leadon never knew each other.  After one concert backing Ronstadt, the four broke away to form the Eagles and in less than a year were soaring. Frey would have found success given his talent.  So too for Henley, but the Eagles as we know their music never would have existed if not for Ronstadt.  The volume of quality music the band put together 1971-1975 blew all others away.

Hotel California
Desperado
The Heat is On
Heartache Tonight
Best of My Love
Take It to the Limit

A can't miss CD  purchase, 1971-1976 Eagles Greatest Hits, a must have.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: ctc on January 18, 2016, 09:55:16 PM
So many of their songs I really enjoyed were not "greatest hits"    Maybe my favorite all time is "O'l 55".
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: Ray Brinzer on January 18, 2016, 10:00:42 PM
May well be the top band of the 70's, at least right along side of Chicago.  Frey was an Incredible songwriter.  Prior to being brought in as the back-up band for Linda Ronstadt,  Frey, Henley, Meisner and Leadon never knew each other.  After one concert backing Ronstadt, the four broke away to form the Eagles and in less than a year were soaring. Frey would have found success given his talent.  So too for Henley, but the Eagles as we know their music never would have existed if not for Ronstadt.  The volume of quality music the band put together 1971-1975 blew all others away.

IMO:  Led Zeppelin > Rolling Stones > Pink Floyd > Eagles

Anyway, though, sad news.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: brycemus on January 18, 2016, 10:38:39 PM
Doors, Beatles, Queen, Journey (shut up!), Beach Boys
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: RYou on January 19, 2016, 07:28:35 AM

IMO:  Led Zeppelin (late 60s) > Rolling Stones (65-70) > Pink Floyd (67-73)> Eagles



Doors(67-71), Beatles(63-70), Queen(75-85), Journey (79-83) (shut up!), Beach Boys (63-69)


1971-1976 The Eagles had more hits and out sold all of the above.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: buck on January 19, 2016, 10:14:19 AM
eelin' Good, Gettin' Tight, Livin' Right
On fitness and health

"I don't want to harp on this, or sound like a zealot, but I just decided to take better care of myself and get into shape. I was in the hospital two years ago with an infection in the lower intestinal track that had everything to do with lifestyle. Not eating right. Not exercising. Smoking. Drinking. Snorting. You name it. [...] By starting to eat right, get on a schedule that didn't involve abuse, and work out, my record was better. I sang better. I wrote better. I discovered I could create all this joy without having it triggered by some substance I ingested to get me to do it. [...] I'm no saint... I didn't make a conscious decision to stop that and start this. It's more like I evolved into it. I like the way working out makes me feel. I tried to drink all night and work out the next day, but I threw up." (1988)

"I got sick. I was supposed to do a benefit concert with Henley, and I ended up in the hospital with diverticulitis. It's from burgers and beer and blow and broads -- all the bad stuff I'd been doing to myself. [I didn't] go through some big Betty Ford Clinic, give-up-everything-under-the-sun scene. I just adjusted my lifestyle. [...] [I can] do things I never thought I could do. I do 400 sit-ups at a time. Two years ago, I couldn't do 10 push-ups; now I'm ripping off sets of 100. [...] If I indulge too much, it shows in my workout the next day. And my trainer makes sure I feel it." (Detroit Free Press 1988)

"A lot of people who know me are laughing, but now I'm addicted to health." (MacLean's 1989)

"The first step to workin' out is showin' up." (Adweek 1989)

"A few of us had a lot of fun joking about the Glenn Frey Rock 'n' Roll Fitness Video. The first day you buy the clothes, check 'em out, see how they feel. [Laughs.] The second day you get in there with the equipment and wear the clothes, do a couple of sit-ups and have a cigarette, make a couple of phone calls. Call the studio and tell 'em you're gonna be late, you're training." (St. Petersburg Times 1991)

"The thing about fitness is not the one hour that you're spending in the gym each morning. It's the way it impacts the other 23. It just makes you feel great." (Ft. Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel 1991)

"It's improved my clarity... For me, my brain is like a motel room, and every night the maid comes and cleans everything up, so when you wake up in the morning there's no clutter." (Los Angeles Times 1992)

"When you're young and you party, you bounce back. As you get older, you just kind of lay there." (Arsenio Hall Interview 1993)

"Too much of anything will kill you - including heath shakes." (San Diego 1992)

 

Quotable Frey Index
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: TobusRex on January 19, 2016, 03:56:26 PM
At least it wasn't Joe Walsh.

Joe Walsh > The Eagles
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: mspart on January 19, 2016, 05:36:53 PM
At least it wasn't Joe Walsh.

Joe Walsh > The Eagles

I saw them recently and the show came alive when Joe started doing his thing.

mspart
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: TobusRex on January 19, 2016, 06:56:47 PM
At least it wasn't Joe Walsh.

Joe Walsh > The Eagles

I saw them recently and the show came alive when Joe started doing his thing.

mspart

I bet :D

One of my favorite rockers.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: pipewrench on January 19, 2016, 07:13:41 PM
I wonder how many thousands of babies were made in vans while "listening" to the Eagles back in the day...

That being said, they were okay by me.  I can still play air drums and guitar to Hotel California.  ;-)
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: Cruocified on January 19, 2016, 09:55:12 PM
At least it wasn't Joe Walsh.

Joe Walsh > The Eagles

That's a big 10-4 big tits.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: Ray Brinzer on January 20, 2016, 01:53:21 AM

IMO:  Led Zeppelin (late 60s) > Rolling Stones (65-70) > Pink Floyd (67-73)> Eagles

1971-1976 The Eagles had more hits and out sold all of the above.

On the more general point of "Top band of the '70s", I think you'll find it a very hard case to make on the metrics you're choosing.  Even for the more limited case of '71-'76, they're not the top in either hits or albums sold.

Some perspective on hits, using Billboard Hot 100 numbers from 1971-76:

GroupTop 100Top 10Number One
The Eagles1263
The Rolling Stones1342
America1362
Wings14114
Three Dog Night1372
The Bee Gees1263
Elton John20156
Stevie Wonder1384

(Not counting Another Day or Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey for Wings.)

As far as the bands I mentioned:  yes, at their peak, the Eagles edged out the Rolling Stones for hits.  They were comparable to the Bee Gees, before the Bee Gees peaked.

Album sales:  Led Zeppelin IV sold 23x platnum, while The Eagles' five studio albums up to 1976, taken together, sold 25x.  Then you have Zeppelin III (6x), Houses of the Holy (11x), Physical Graffiti (16x), Presence (3x) and The Song Remains the Same (4x), totaling an additional 40x.  The Eagles put their greatest hits out in '76, and that went to 29x, but they still fall 9x short for the period. And that's if you feel good about counting a greatest hits album, just because it happened to come out in the period we're talking about.

I was really commenting on the "volume and quality" bit, though, which doesn't say "sales" or "hits" to me. If you think The Eagles' quality in that period blew away Led Zeppelin's, we're just working with very different yardsticks.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: RYou on January 20, 2016, 07:39:00 AM
No argument at all opposing Zepplin.  My resources stand corrected.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: TobusRex on January 20, 2016, 12:08:08 PM
Just looking at the list that Ray compiled I think a strong case could be made that Elton John was the biggest performer in the 70's.  Very surprising, to me at least.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: Bob H. on January 20, 2016, 01:19:00 PM
Lots of good performers during that time.  In addition to the ones listed above, there was also Linda Ronstadt (sort of mentioned above), Fleetwood Mac, The Moody Blues, Bruce Springsteen, Jimmy Buffet, Tom Petty and a host of others.

I liked Warren Zevon, but he was never a huge star.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: TobusRex on January 20, 2016, 02:10:22 PM
Zevon was a 1 hit wonder. But that 1 hit was great.

Linda Ronstadt was pure eye candy back in the day.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: Bob H. on January 20, 2016, 03:09:22 PM
He had more than one hit, but not much more.  Lots of good albums, though.

I usually listen to "Hit Somebody!" at least once during hockey season.

You would probably like "Mr. Bad Example" if you assumed the title character was a Republican politician.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: mspart on January 20, 2016, 04:49:15 PM
Elton John was huge there for awhile, especially from 72 - 76.  It doesn't surprise me. 

The Eagles were good and they were pretty fresh.  A different musical style than anyone else.  And they made it work by great musicianship and songwriting skills. 

RIP Glenn Fry

mspart
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: TobusRex on January 20, 2016, 06:21:17 PM
He had more than one hit, but not much more.  Lots of good albums, though.

I usually listen to "Hit Somebody!" at least once during hockey season.

You would probably like "Mr. Bad Example" if you assumed the title character was a Republican politician.

Hehe....Bob, when I think of Republican politicians this is who I think of. Their FAVORITE constituents :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1n5XqwUkYw
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: TobusRex on January 20, 2016, 06:26:08 PM
Elton John was huge there for awhile, especially from 72 - 76.  It doesn't surprise me. 

The Eagles were good and they were pretty fresh.  A different musical style than anyone else.  And they made it work by great musicianship and songwriting skills. 

RIP Glenn Fry

mspart

Yeah, they were pretty good. Great harmonies, great guitar work.

I've heard Felder gets pissed whenever Walsh gets all the credit for the solo in Hotel California. Apparently most of that was Felder's work.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: Bob H. on January 20, 2016, 07:18:46 PM
He had more than one hit, but not much more.  Lots of good albums, though.

I usually listen to "Hit Somebody!" at least once during hockey season.

You would probably like "Mr. Bad Example" if you assumed the title character was a Republican politician.

Hehe....Bob, when I think of Republican politicians this is who I think of. Their FAVORITE constituents :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1n5XqwUkYw

That was a cute video I hadn't seen before.  It also included a young Michael Keaton.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: mspart on January 20, 2016, 07:32:49 PM
Elton John was huge there for awhile, especially from 72 - 76.  It doesn't surprise me. 

The Eagles were good and they were pretty fresh.  A different musical style than anyone else.  And they made it work by great musicianship and songwriting skills. 

RIP Glenn Fry

mspart

Yeah, they were pretty good. Great harmonies, great guitar work.

I've heard Felder gets pissed whenever Walsh gets all the credit for the solo in Hotel California. Apparently most of that was Felder's work.

Yeah, my understanding is that Felder worked the song out before they went into the studio.  He had provided it to the other members of the band.  He wrote the intro, and the chorus and the leads.  I've never heard that anyone said Joe wrote the leads.  The parts Joe plays maybe, at least he made them his own.  The lyrics were not by Felder as far as I know.  Also, he had to capo the chord progression to the 7th fret so Henley could sing it.  He originally had it with no capo.  Said playing it up at the 7th fret was a real pain.  I've seen a video of him doing it without a capo on the 5th fret.  Quite the barre he had going on that one with an acoustic no less.

mspart



Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: TobusRex on January 21, 2016, 01:58:01 PM
I hate capos. I'd just as soon sing out of key as not, lol.
Title: Re: RIP Glenn Frey
Post by: mspart on January 21, 2016, 06:45:27 PM
Me too.  I've learned that song with the capo on the 7th fret and it pretty much gets in the way.  If you watch a youtube of him doing it with the Eagles, he is working hard not to let it bother him.

mspart