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Wrestling => College => Topic started by: RYou on September 07, 2016, 06:08:54 PM

Title: J Rob Axed
Post by: RYou on September 07, 2016, 06:08:54 PM
http://www.fox9.com/sports/gophers/203202546-story

At a press conference Wednesday afternoon, athletics director Mark Coyle said Robinson was fired for not sharing all the information he knew about the wrestlers allegedly selling and abusing the prescription drugs


Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on September 07, 2016, 06:16:09 PM
It was a witch hunt
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: buck on September 07, 2016, 07:41:41 PM
He didn't  cooperate with the university’s internal investigation and did not answer questions.  He also destroyed evidence.  What witch hunt are you referring to?
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on September 07, 2016, 07:42:25 PM
He didn't  cooperate with the university’s internal investigation and did not answer questions.  He also destroyed evidence.  What witch hunt are you referring to?

Coaches handle issues like this internally all the time
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: buck on September 07, 2016, 07:44:11 PM
Name one.
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on September 07, 2016, 07:55:21 PM
Name one.

I had a couple sentences typed out but I don't want to air this stuff. I can say that I've seen it firsthand, if you want more I can discuss it privately.
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: buck on September 07, 2016, 08:14:02 PM
I have zero interest.  My opinion J Rob was properly terminated, certainly shades of Paterno.
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: MNRodent on September 07, 2016, 08:32:01 PM
I have zero interest.  My opinion J Rob was properly terminated, certainly shades of Paterno.

Reporting drug use suspicions, but not fast enough (allegedly), is akin to turning a blind eye to child rape.  Got it.
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: brycemus on September 07, 2016, 08:36:46 PM
I can't wait to watch this play out in Court
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: RYou on September 07, 2016, 10:51:09 PM

I have zero interest.  My opinion J Rob was properly terminated, certainly shades of Paterno.


Not a shred of likeness to Paterno who was pushed out without any evidence or investigation.
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: buck on September 08, 2016, 06:41:31 AM
Minnesota didn't have a choice, and there aren't two sides to this story.  J Rob forgot he was accountable to his superiors.
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: mspart on September 08, 2016, 11:39:22 AM
I thought he said he complied with all administrative directives on this issue.  Did he or did he not? 

mspart
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: jammen on September 08, 2016, 12:07:26 PM
For those of you who are familiar with the U of MN, you know that influential factions have been pushing to get rid of JRob since the Title IX furor.  I worked at the U and have heard the passion of their voices.  The MN Daily ran several editorials calling for his dismissal back then.  That sentiment hasn't died down.  Powerful voices pushed for his firing and the new AD Coyle became their hand puppet. 
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: brycemus on September 08, 2016, 01:40:41 PM
I can't wait to see what he has.  You don't head a program at a large university as long as he has without having dirt on a lot of people.
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: fsgrecofolk on September 08, 2016, 01:50:52 PM
It was getting time for him to move on anyway.  It will never find it's way into a court and a settlement will be negotiated.
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: mspart on September 08, 2016, 02:49:16 PM
For those of you who are familiar with the U of MN, you know that influential factions have been pushing to get rid of JRob since the Title IX furor.  I worked at the U and have heard the passion of their voices.  The MN Daily ran several editorials calling for his dismissal back then.  That sentiment hasn't died down.  Powerful voices pushed for his firing and the new AD Coyle became their hand puppet.

This.  I lived in Apple Valley, MN 1994-2001 and heard it then.  I agree with this assessment.

mspart
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: caseman on September 09, 2016, 03:32:16 PM
I hate that he is gone, especially how he went out.  I thought he was a great coach and an icon to the sport.     2001, 10 All-Americans!!  Holy F#ck!

https://youtu.be/b5XY72q0LyQ (https://youtu.be/b5XY72q0LyQ)
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: Jerry Callo on September 09, 2016, 03:43:10 PM
I hate to break this to ya fellas, but the local District Attorney has already announced there will be no criminal charges brought against the wrestlers, OR against J Robinson.  So if you see the Court TV trucks outside Williams Arena it is NOT for the wrestling program. 

Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: brycemus on September 09, 2016, 03:45:17 PM
they are going to settle and it's going to cost the U.  and there isn't a bunch of rich alums who will be willing to pony up this cash like with their football coach they ran out of town.
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: mspart on September 09, 2016, 07:32:03 PM
Well, I hope so.  U of M have been trying to run him out forever.  Now they did finally in such an awful mess.  They have never supported him.  Ever.  They have tolerated him as a dinosaur, albeit a very successful dinosaur. 

I wish him the best of luck.

mspart
Title: Re: J Rob Axed
Post by: RYou on September 09, 2016, 08:55:02 PM
Interesting circumstances.  If the U negotiates a settlement with J, the cost is born fully by the athletic department.  The U extended J's contractrt through April 2019. He's looking at a minimum of 2.5 years of value.

The allegations would no doubt include Wrongful Termination, defamation, libel and slander, plus punitive damages. No if he files a suit, there is insurance in place that will respond to the cost of defense and pay any damages subject to the deductible chosen by the University.  The big issue, it covers the cost of defending the  Right out of the box, there is insurance place to cover a portion of the loss that otherwise would have been absorbed internally. 

Universities are notorious for staunchly defend such liability allegations.  They wont hesitate to run up a $500K or $1M legal bill.  Expect this one to drag along for years.