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Miscellaneous => Polls => Topic started by: RYou on April 12, 2017, 04:56:06 PM

Title: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: RYou on April 12, 2017, 04:56:06 PM
The Cleveland Indians logo may be headed back to the tepee after the 2017 season if MLB brass get their way.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/52/Cleveland_Indians_logo.svg/791px-Cleveland_Indians_logo.svg.png)

He's been around in various forms since 1934.  Is it time for retirement ?  It's going to be difficult finding a replacement logo without offending someone.
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: mspart on April 12, 2017, 05:08:26 PM
Everything is offensive to someone.  Water?  How can that be offensive?  Ever live in Phoenix or Minneapolis?  Get back to me when you do.  That water is offensive. 

Leave the logo.  This is childish.

mspart
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: Cougar1 on April 13, 2017, 05:15:18 PM
My favorite MLB logo. Another sign of the progressive idiocy.
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: buck on April 14, 2017, 02:31:43 PM
Progressive who loves the Chief.  Now fix the poll.
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on April 17, 2017, 01:45:52 PM
It has similarities to blackface hence I can see why someone would have issues with it. I can't say whether or not I'm offended because I'm not a part of any tribe. I can ask my Cherokee cousins if they're offended.
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: mspart on April 17, 2017, 02:54:46 PM
We had a semi effort to get rid of Indian inspired names here in WA for HS mascots.  One of the HS's here is Redskins.  Now the interesting thing is that this HS has majority Indian (Native American) attendance and always has.  They love the name and fought the attempted change. 

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/redskins-controversy-high-school-with-debated-name-just-wants-to-be-left-alone/

WELLPINIT, Stevens County — This little town of 928 — with its one grocery store, one gas station and one stop sign — is far, far away from the national controversies of the day.

To get here, you drive about an hour north of Spokane, past fields of barley, wheat and canola with yellow flowers, past the forests.

It is home for the Spokane Tribe of Indians, and for 107 years, the Wellpinit High School mascot name has been Redskins.

mspart
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on April 17, 2017, 10:37:53 PM
I almost taught at a reservation school in New Mexico

They're the Chieftans. Had a state champ last year in that tiny New Mexico state wrestling bracket
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: brycemus on April 17, 2017, 11:00:45 PM
Is one of your Cherokee friends Elizabeth Warren?
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: mspart on April 18, 2017, 11:04:27 AM
She's  full on blue eyed white skinned Cherokee!

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mspart
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on April 18, 2017, 11:20:25 AM
Is one of your Cherokee friends Elizabeth Warren?

My one cousin is about 1/4 Cherokee and he looks whiter than me. The other one is about 3/4 Cherokee and she looks like she is full-blooded
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: brycemus on April 18, 2017, 11:21:23 AM
Is one of your Cherokee friends Elizabeth Warren?

My one cousin is about 1/4 Cherokee and he looks whiter than me. The other one is about 3/4 Cherokee and she looks like she is full-blooded

about 1/4?  not sure how that math works out
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on April 18, 2017, 11:32:25 AM
Is one of your Cherokee friends Elizabeth Warren?

My one cousin is about 1/4 Cherokee and he looks whiter than me. The other one is about 3/4 Cherokee and she looks like she is full-blooded

about 1/4?  not sure how that math works out
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I'm guessing you're pointing out it should be a multiple of 6? So in that case I think it's about 1/6 or 2/6

I don't know the exact amount of cherokee in my one cousin just that he was Cherokee enough that his adoption was handled through Cherokee courts. My other cousin is nearly full blooded
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: brycemus on April 18, 2017, 12:25:42 PM
Is one of your Cherokee friends Elizabeth Warren?

My one cousin is about 1/4 Cherokee and he looks whiter than me. The other one is about 3/4 Cherokee and she looks like she is full-blooded

about 1/4?  not sure how that math works out
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I'm guessing you're pointing out it should be a multiple of 6? So in that case I think it's about 1/6 or 2/6

I don't know the exact amount of cherokee in my one cousin just that he was Cherokee enough that his adoption was handled through Cherokee courts. My other cousin is nearly full blooded

You can be 1/4, 1/8, or some variation.  I'm not certain why it would be multiples of 6.  frankly 2/6 would be super odd given it should read 1/3...which I really have 0 clue how it could be possible
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on April 18, 2017, 01:29:18 PM
Is one of your Cherokee friends Elizabeth Warren?

My one cousin is about 1/4 Cherokee and he looks whiter than me. The other one is about 3/4 Cherokee and she looks like she is full-blooded

about 1/4?  not sure how that math works out

I'm guessing you're pointing out it should be a multiple of 6? So in that case I think it's about 1/6 or 2/6

I don't know the exact amount of cherokee in my one cousin just that he was Cherokee enough that his adoption was handled through Cherokee courts. My other cousin is nearly full blooded

You can be 1/4, 1/8, or some variation.  I'm not certain why it would be multiples of 6.  frankly 2/6 would be super odd given it should read 1/3...which I really have 0 clue how it could be possible

I'm not good with genetics. Me no science good
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: mspart on April 18, 2017, 02:28:42 PM
Is that why you are teaching quantum mechanics!!!   Ha - just kidding.  In my view, the cat is either alive or dead, not both at the same time. 

My wife is 1/8 Sicilian.  But the Awapaho tribe won't admit her.

mspart

Disclaimer:  I use that in jest.  I have a friend who is 1/2 Italian and he claims to be Awapaho.  I figure if he can use it, I can too.
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: Ray Brinzer on April 18, 2017, 02:45:09 PM
You can be 1/4, 1/8, or some variation.  I'm not certain why it would be multiples of 6.  frankly 2/6 would be super odd given it should read 1/3...which I really have 0 clue how it could be possible

Easy! If both your parents are 1/3 Cherokee, you will be too. ;)

I'm not good with genetics. Me no science good

This is neither. It's fourth grade arithmetic. Think about it.
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: FalconWrestlingKY on April 18, 2017, 04:11:14 PM
You can be 1/4, 1/8, or some variation.  I'm not certain why it would be multiples of 6.  frankly 2/6 would be super odd given it should read 1/3...which I really have 0 clue how it could be possible

Easy! If both your parents are 1/3 Cherokee, you will be too. ;)

I'm not good with genetics. Me no science good

This is neither. It's fourth grade arithmetic. Think about it.

Basically I got confused when bryce started asking about the "about 1/4" and I started trying to figure out how my math may be messed up and putting mistakes in that weren't there.
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: Cougar1 on April 18, 2017, 05:38:54 PM
She's  full on blue eyed white skinned Cherokee!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/722044174799777792/bXaodRhx.jpg)  (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3e/16/51/3e165164bf85ac809a29a9f5cda0f6d6.jpg)

mspart
If she self identifies as a Native American who are you to question her version of truth? Get a life!!
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: Ray Brinzer on April 18, 2017, 05:56:44 PM
You can't very well prove she's wrong.
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: mspart on April 18, 2017, 06:45:02 PM
True.  When it is all in your mind, it is tough to prove wrong what you identify with. 

mspart
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: Cougar1 on April 18, 2017, 06:57:41 PM
True.  When it is all in your mind, it is tough to prove wrong what you identify with. 

mspart
Now you're catching on!  :D
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: RYou on May 22, 2017, 08:17:15 AM
According to the USDoJ, you are what you wanna be and say you are.

If there is no science in the equation for gender identity, then there can be no science behind racial identity.

All that may hold until people start labeling themselves certain gender and racial identities that gain them greater employment and other benefits to which they would not otherwise qualify.
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: mspart on May 23, 2017, 11:45:38 AM
So we are told there is no science with gender, you are who you think you are.  However these same people tell me I have to believe in global warming because its science. 

Answer me this Batman:  Which is more scientifically determined, your gender or anthropomorphic climate change? 

Batman:   I'm Batman.  Not Batsomething.  Not sure about global warming, but this suit is hot.

And there you go.

mspart
Title: Re: Chief Wahoo Yea or Nae
Post by: ViseGrip on May 25, 2017, 11:26:03 AM
You can't very well prove she's wrong.


Dont be so sure.... https://www.ancestry.com/