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Title: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: Brew on October 09, 2018, 11:30:50 PM
https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2018-10-09/wrestlers-each-weight-class-be-seeded-di-championships
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: RYou on October 10, 2018, 08:34:54 AM
Tis a good thing. No effort since they are ranked to make the trip.
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: buck on October 11, 2018, 09:44:55 AM
It's one thing when they can do it all by the numbers but when there's any subjectivity to it it becomes kind of stupid to waste that much time on it. Seeding is meant to separate OUTSTANDING individuals. How can the entire bracket be outstanding with regard to each other?
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: mspart on October 11, 2018, 10:57:42 AM
buck - everyone is outstanding.   That is the new normal.

mspart
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: ViseGrip on October 11, 2018, 11:29:20 AM
It's one thing when they can do it all by the numbers but when there's any subjectivity to it it becomes kind of stupid to waste that much time on it. Seeding is meant to separate OUTSTANDING individuals. How can the entire bracket be outstanding with regard to each other?


Where is this written in the rules about seeding?
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: buck on October 11, 2018, 11:39:55 AM
Ha.  You tell me then what the purpose of seeding is.
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: ViseGrip on October 11, 2018, 01:32:58 PM
Ha.  You tell me then what the purpose of seeding is.

My guess is if it is even mentioned in the rules, would be to reward wrestlers who are deemed superior and to separate them from other accomplished wrestlers untill they have advanced as per their seed.
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: buck on October 11, 2018, 01:44:27 PM
LOL...thank you we agree.
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: LILHOWDOG on October 11, 2018, 03:14:54 PM
It's one thing when they can do it all by the numbers but when there's any subjectivity to it it becomes kind of stupid to waste that much time on it. Seeding is meant to separate OUTSTANDING individuals. How can the entire bracket be outstanding with regard to each other?


Where is this written in the rules about seeding?

It is mentioned in our HS rules regarding seeding meetings/
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: ViseGrip on October 11, 2018, 04:09:39 PM
LOL...thank you we agree.

I dont think we do... I think there is a good benefit to seeding all 33.

By seeding all 33 we can can avoid some first round match ups of conference foes for instance. 
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: buck on October 12, 2018, 07:42:56 AM
You love to argue I get it but you had questioned the definition of seeds and provided your thoughts which were exactly what I wrote.
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: LILHOWDOG on October 14, 2018, 10:29:52 AM
You love to argue I get it but you had questioned the definition of seeds and provided your thoughts which were exactly what I wrote.

Libtard words can't be trusted.
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: RYou on October 14, 2018, 04:00:46 PM
More than likely, seediing 33 will closely follow the season end RPI rankings, then adjusted for conference upsets and RPI 34+ that won their way to the tournament.
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: mspart on October 15, 2018, 12:47:42 PM
With this new system, there WILL BE  no upsets anymore.  That's how good it is!!!

mspart
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: ViseGrip on October 15, 2018, 10:18:56 PM
Now we are going to have contests as to who will be the lowest seeded wrestler to place.
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: Brew on October 15, 2018, 11:09:38 PM
My first thought was Vegas will love this
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: brycemus on October 16, 2018, 09:50:21 AM
this is stupic and wasteful.  one of the best things to see is the crazy draws that wrestlers have to navigate to win a title or even just all american
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: mspart on October 17, 2018, 02:38:12 PM
Welcome back Bryce!!

mspart
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: Jason Bryant on October 18, 2018, 06:40:01 AM
this is stupic and wasteful.  one of the best things to see is the crazy draws that wrestlers have to navigate to win a title or even just all american

I don't think it's wasteful. They've had the methodology to objectively seed the Top 33 since the onset. Now they're just putting it into practice. There's little time actually wasted here. Most of the arguments in the seeding meeting are for the top eight.
Title: Re: all wrestlers will be seeded at the 2019 championships
Post by: brycemus on October 18, 2018, 03:41:12 PM
I don't mean "wasteful" as in time or paperwork.  it's just an actual waste and will not matter.