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Miscellaneous => Polls => Topic started by: brycemus on October 07, 2009, 01:05:35 PM

Title: the Flu Shot
Post by: brycemus on October 07, 2009, 01:05:35 PM
Are you going to get one ???
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: Viratas on October 07, 2009, 01:29:00 PM
Nada
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: coachsparky on October 07, 2009, 02:27:01 PM
I responded no as well.  Wondering the reasons for all.  Mine is that I simply don't feel the need to get it.  I rarely get sick and when I do, it doesn't last long.  My wife always gets the vacinations and will again I am sure.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: Viratas on October 07, 2009, 03:01:15 PM
I stoped getting the regular one 7 years ago and have been Flu free, but when I got the shot I always got the Flu.

I also believe in natural things meaning if it kills me well then maybe that was meant to be.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: brycemus on October 07, 2009, 03:10:56 PM
I don't trust the science behind it.  I'm a healthy individual in general.  I see no reason to expose myself to a vaccine that in the past (flu shots in general) to drastically protect those taking them.  And I'm also opposed to it because the government is damn near ordering people to.

I don't see a reason for people with uncompromised immune systems to protect against something that bedrest, hydration, and aspirin can defeat.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: coachsparky on October 07, 2009, 04:15:36 PM
The government is no where near ordering people to bryce.  I work for the government and there is no pressure whatsoever to get one.  Gosh you right wingers really are going off the deepend.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: AKIN on October 07, 2009, 04:51:53 PM
Actually you could say that the govt. is forcing the immunizations, as kids are not able to go to school without them.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: coachsparky on October 07, 2009, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: "AKIN"
Actually you could say that the govt. is forcing the immunizations, as kids are not able to go to school without them.

Anyone 23 years and younger should get them.  They are most at danger from the flu.  I am making both my boys get them.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: brycemus on October 07, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: "coachsparky"
The government is no where near ordering people to bryce.  I work for the government and there is no pressure whatsoever to get one.  Gosh you right wingers really are going off the deepend.

I misspoke about the word "order" ... they are strongly encouraging...as can be seen by Sibelius' remarks.

and if I'm a right winger because I don't think the government should be saying I need a shot that I Don't need then for once you're actually right in your assumption.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: LoSt on October 08, 2009, 12:23:49 AM
Quote from: "coachsparky"
Quote from: "AKIN"
Actually you could say that the govt. is forcing the immunizations, as kids are not able to go to school without them.

Anyone 23 years and younger should get them.  They are most at danger from the flu.  I am making both my boys get them.

Pretty sure its the elderly that have the most to worry about the flu...

I'm pretty sure I've already had H1N1 so not much of a worry for me.  I get a regular flu shot from time to time when my mom talks me into it (she works in public health) but I dont think I've ever had the regular flu
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: Cougar1 on October 08, 2009, 12:48:06 AM
Never had a flu shot and won't likely get this one either. I have a Dr. friend who has recommended avoiding it.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: StephanVonVesthell on October 08, 2009, 01:22:53 AM
I was too young to remember my last flu shot.  I tend to think that I'm strong enough to take on any flu.  I voted no simply because I don't think it's necessary.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: tpay on October 08, 2009, 02:51:34 AM
No, don't see the point, have not been sick in years.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: Viratas on October 08, 2009, 07:37:46 AM
Two of my Daughters friends had the shot when the initial over the top panic started and guess what?

In the past 8 weeks both have had that flu (so their parents claim). Also note neither died,

The people dieing have pre-existing medical condistions from what I have read.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: ctc on October 09, 2009, 11:12:39 PM
Blown out of porportion.  Kind of like global warming.  The regular flu shot is very bad for you (gov says it is safe and good) and now gov says swine flu shot is safe and good for you too.  LOOK OUT!!!  

PS - I haven't had the flu in 40 years.  Zero flu shots.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: buck on October 20, 2009, 08:54:29 AM
Dr. Bill Frist says those who don't receive swine flu shots are idiots.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: Jimmy the Gent on October 20, 2009, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: "buck"
Dr. Bill Frist says those who don't receive swine flu shots are idiots.

Well then Dr. Bill Frist is an idiot because 99% of the population will not have any complications even if they get swine flu.

I got that statistic from the CDC they had a report about it on 60 Minutes.  If you are paranoid and think you will be part of that 1% then go ahead and get a flu shot.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: buck on October 20, 2009, 12:19:13 PM
What the hell does CTC know about the swine flu?
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: Viratas on October 20, 2009, 12:22:07 PM
Bill frist sounds like the idiot
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: buck on October 20, 2009, 12:51:13 PM
He actually sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and frankly I'd be more inclined to listen to a heart surgeon on issues like this than you V. :wink:
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: royboy on October 21, 2009, 08:00:43 PM
I don't recall ever recieving a flu shot.  I don't think its smart to inject a sickness into your body.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: ViseGrip on October 22, 2009, 10:20:09 AM
Maher makes some good points (Like a stopped clock, he's right only twice a day)
http://www.breitbart.tv/bill-mahers-med ... n-on-show/ (http://www.breitbart.tv/bill-mahers-medical-meltdown-causes-consternation-on-show/)
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: Viratas on October 22, 2009, 10:21:41 AM
Quote from: "buck"
He actually sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and frankly I'd be more inclined to listen to a heart surgeon on issues like this than you V. :wink:

I don't blame you.
Title: Re: the Flu Shot
Post by: RYou on October 25, 2009, 06:41:29 AM
Quote from: "LoSt"

Pretty sure its the elderly that have the most to worry about the flu...

You're half right.  The seasonal flu is the one Seniors have to be wary of.  Statistically, H1N1, which is a different strain is seeking out the 25 and under crowd.  Some in the know feel it's because of the immunity in those that were around the last time Swine circulated back in the 70's

Neither is terribly severe except for those with the underlying conditions the CDC has identified.

There is one bit of detail the CDC has not communicated very well and that is the mortality rate for H1N1 and pregnant women. The rate is almost 30%, extremely high.  If you know gals that are pregnant and SEEM to have flu symptoms, encourage her to see a doc at pronto. This sucker is killing pregnant women that have no other underlying condition.