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3rd Period
Neither wrestle has been warned with stalling

Wrestler A has 4 points
Wrestler B has 3 points

Wrestler A is on top of Wrestler B.

Nearing the end of third period (15 seconds left), Wrestler A is holding onto the ankle of Wrestler B for dear life....Wrestler B is on the cusp of escaping.....5 seconds pass, you're about to warn for stalling but you see Wrestler A is going to escape and do not make a call.....4 seconds later, Wrestler B escapes......


1) Was this wrong? Should the ref call WARNING immediately after 5 seconds?
2) After the escape, could you make a delayed stall call or no? I'm assuming no, but thought I'd ask

Is their proper protocol for this situation or can a ref use his/her best judgment when officiating this situation.


First OT....

Wrestler A takes Wrestler B down, Ref quickly calls 2, but within a hair of a second, they're in a 50-50 situation. You've all seen what I'm talking about in a regulation portion of a match. I think we've all waved off a call at least once. Imagine this situation now in Overtime.  Yes, in OT, we need to be a little more patient. However, for discussion purposes.....can you wave off a 2 pt takedown (regardless if the scoring wrestler stops or continues action)? 

Wrestlingref - Officiating / UTB question
« on: February 26, 2018, 09:20:19 AM »
Top wrestler rides out bottom wrestler for 29 seconds in the UTB and go out of bounds. For whatever reason, the top wrestler needs an injury timeout, his second one nonetheless. Does this mean bottom wrestler can choose top now and ride out the last second for the win?

Wrestlingref - Officiating / 2nd Overtime/ UTB situation
« on: February 21, 2018, 08:59:02 PM »
Dear All:

In an Overtime situation (2nd or UTB) [no stall calls at this point yet]...

Wrestler A is on Top of Wrestler B.

Wrestler B stands up with 13 seconds left , Wrestler A latches on to one ankle, but Wrester B is fighting hard and looks to be on the cusp of escaping , do you hold the stalemate call and let it go or call it immediately after 5 seconds? Is this a judgment call or at 5 seconds, do you have to stop and make the call?

Dear All:

What would you have done differently?

From the "slam" to the eye poke to the coaches' behavior.....What calls would you have made?

I apologize if this has been discussed already.

Dual meet.

Team A is up 5 points (in team score).

Down to the last match.

Team B knows they need a pin.

Final match goes to Overtime.

Wrestler from Team B takes wrestler A straight to his back.....ref blows whistle, gives 2 TD. Ends the match.

Can this be rectified, if so, how?

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Gold Standard Officiating Examples
« on: February 08, 2018, 07:27:26 PM »
Dear All:

If you could please kind post examples of what "Gold Standard" officiating is, and what new, old, and veteran refs should strive to emulate, that'd be greatly appreciated. If you know of any amazing matches you saw where the officiating was top notch, caught on film and easily shared in a public manner, please feel free to post them.

I think these kind of videos would be beneficial to any official in the game.

Thank you so kind in advance.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Referee ratings....
« on: January 23, 2018, 08:49:57 PM »
I'm curious to hear how other organizations do their ratings on refs...

How are you assessed?
Who rates you? Coaches? Independent panel?

Anyone care to share exactly how you are rated and how those ratings impact the post-season?

We get rated by the coaches....then top guys get picked for the post-season.

Curious if there is a better system out there.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Overly intense team....
« on: January 01, 2018, 11:38:15 AM »
Dear All:

The other day I had to officiate a very intense (Iowa Brands mentality like team) team. Tough as nails, but they were a little dirty. I think I had 6 unnecessary roughness calls during the dual meet. The calls were bending fingers and windup cross-faces. I was hoping all these calls would settle down the team, but each wrestler that came to the mat were just relentless in their style. The coach wasn't the most professional either (and you could tell it was a top-down problem). So a couple questions...

a) Is there rulebook support to DEFAULT an entire team due to safety concerns an official may have? I know a wrestler can earn a flagrant misconduct for repeated unnecessary roughness calls, but couldn't find anything about defaulting a team.

b) Can a mat return be unnecessary roughness? (is it any different than an illegal slam?) Their mat returns seemed "textbook," besides the fact there was some borderline returns that look like the wrestler was trying to "punish" them on it.

c) What is some advice you could give to get CONTROL of a match (being the official). These wrestlers were pretty smart....after a second Unnecessary Roughness call, they would scale back a bit, each wrestler , especially if they got a quick lead would just be down right INTENSE (often overly Terry Brand at the collegiate level.....regardless of who their opponent was [weak or competitive].

It wasn't my best match and I wasn't exactly happy with how it went.....the aura with the match wasn't pleasant. In retrospect, I was thinking that I should have taken a "my time" and asked to speak to the head coach for a few moments and speak my mind.

Any advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated.


Wrestlingref - Officiating / Do you have 2 point reversal here?
« on: December 09, 2017, 12:20:36 AM »

I believe the official made a mistake here for sure......

The more I watch this.....I don't think I would have awarded 2 reversal, 2 NF......what's everyone's thoughts on this?

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Hypothetical scenario....just curious
« on: December 08, 2017, 09:51:36 PM »
Wrestler A is dominating the match with a score of 13-0, and is looking for one more tilt on Wrestler B. Wrestler A tilts wrestler B and is now looking to get the pin. In looking for the new pin, keeping the same combination, repositions by tilting him the other way. However while looking to tilt him the other way, Wrestler A is flat on his back for a solid 2 seconds.

Few questions...

a) Is it possible for Wrestler A to lose this match (excluding a flagrant misconduct) by defensive pin?

b) Do you just blow the match dead at this point, award the 3 points and signal technical fall?

Welcome to the new season everyone.


Fleeing the mat?

If you keep watching, do you think a second STALL call (in the third period) should have been awarded to force OT.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Stalling or not?
« on: March 01, 2017, 08:59:31 AM »
Even though he is circling, would you consider this stalling??!?!? Ref didn't call it.

See  you all next season!!!! Another great year!

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Preventive Officiating or Coaching?
« on: January 24, 2017, 07:54:44 AM »
So, this past weekend...Wrestler A was reporting at the head table. As he was heading over to the table, I noticed he was wearing shorts so I told him to take those off before reporting.

The match went on without a hitch.

The more I thought about this situation, the more I contemplated whether or not it was the right thing to do in my situation. During pre-meet discussion, we tell the coach the make sure they are ready to wrestle when they report, and we even mention this at the captain's meeting during the flip of the disc.

My question is this.....Was that preventive officiating ? or Coaching?


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