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Thank you.....just seems a tad unfair since the wrestler isn't getting penalized any points, and now only a few seconds left, plus he gets a fresh start on top. 


3rd Period
Neither wrestle has been warned with stalling

Wrestler A has 4 points
Wrestler B has 3 points

Wrestler A is on top of Wrestler B.

Nearing the end of third period (15 seconds left), Wrestler A is holding onto the ankle of Wrestler B for dear life....Wrestler B is on the cusp of escaping.....5 seconds pass, you're about to warn for stalling but you see Wrestler A is going to escape and do not make a call.....4 seconds later, Wrestler B escapes......


1) Was this wrong? Should the ref call WARNING immediately after 5 seconds?
2) After the escape, could you make a delayed stall call or no? I'm assuming no, but thought I'd ask

Is their proper protocol for this situation or can a ref use his/her best judgment when officiating this situation.


Thank you, Akin. I hope to NEVER EVER be in this situation, but wasn't sure if it was correctable. I don't know why I think of these scenarios, but they pop up every once in a while. Thank you, again.

I fully understand, but for discussion purposes, the ref didn't have a chance to blow the whistle because everything happened so fast....Is this correctable? ....

As in ref calls 2 [ for Wrestler A]
Wrestler A stops Wrestling
B Continues to wrestle
Ref waves off 2
Flurry of action continues (all the aforementioned occurs in less than 2 seconds), wrestlers go out of bounds....even worse...Wrestler B scores a takedown.

Wrestler A's coach approaches the table.....

What is the right thing to do?

My follow-up question is this.....

Coach takes you to the table and says,

"My wrestler stopped wrestling the second you called 2 points [thinking the match was over]!"

"How do you expect my wrestler to continue to wrestle when he thinks the match is officially over?"

First OT....

Wrestler A takes Wrestler B down, Ref quickly calls 2, but within a hair of a second, they're in a 50-50 situation. You've all seen what I'm talking about in a regulation portion of a match. I think we've all waved off a call at least once. Imagine this situation now in Overtime.  Yes, in OT, we need to be a little more patient. However, for discussion purposes.....can you wave off a 2 pt takedown (regardless if the scoring wrestler stops or continues action)? 

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: Gold Standard Officiating Examples
« on: February 26, 2018, 03:00:59 PM »
Great advice for sure, ties right in with "Not looking for boogers."

I would still like to see a Gold Standard "officiated" match ( from the mechanics, positioning ,calls, etc.). If you come across a HS match that fits this, please post here for all to view.

Thanks in advance.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: UTB question
« on: February 26, 2018, 02:58:37 PM »
Thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate it. I should have looked there myself first.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / UTB question
« on: February 26, 2018, 09:20:19 AM »
Top wrestler rides out bottom wrestler for 29 seconds in the UTB and go out of bounds. For whatever reason, the top wrestler needs an injury timeout, his second one nonetheless. Does this mean bottom wrestler can choose top now and ride out the last second for the win?

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: 2nd Overtime/ UTB situation
« on: February 22, 2018, 10:50:57 AM »
My greatest fear....obviously, in the UTB, this is an act to "freeze" wrestling and by rule, called as a stalemate fear is that the bottom man is on the cusp of escape , especially if the top wrestler is now just hanging on the shoe and/or ankle, and you blow it dead before the escape is allowed. It's almost like a Catch-22. You blow it dead....all that hard work the bottom word did to get in that position is out the let it go....and HE DOESN'T escape, you wasted all that time. It's just an interesting situation.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / 2nd Overtime/ UTB situation
« on: February 21, 2018, 08:59:02 PM »
Dear All:

In an Overtime situation (2nd or UTB) [no stall calls at this point yet]...

Wrestler A is on Top of Wrestler B.

Wrestler B stands up with 13 seconds left , Wrestler A latches on to one ankle, but Wrester B is fighting hard and looks to be on the cusp of escaping , do you hold the stalemate call and let it go or call it immediately after 5 seconds? Is this a judgment call or at 5 seconds, do you have to stop and make the call?

Dear All:

What would you have done differently?

From the "slam" to the eye poke to the coaches' behavior.....What calls would you have made?

I apologize if this has been discussed already.

Thanks, that was my guess.

Dual meet.

Team A is up 5 points (in team score).

Down to the last match.

Team B knows they need a pin.

Final match goes to Overtime.

Wrestler from Team B takes wrestler A straight to his back.....ref blows whistle, gives 2 TD. Ends the match.

Can this be rectified, if so, how?

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Gold Standard Officiating Examples
« on: February 08, 2018, 07:27:26 PM »
Dear All:

If you could please kind post examples of what "Gold Standard" officiating is, and what new, old, and veteran refs should strive to emulate, that'd be greatly appreciated. If you know of any amazing matches you saw where the officiating was top notch, caught on film and easily shared in a public manner, please feel free to post them.

I think these kind of videos would be beneficial to any official in the game.

Thank you so kind in advance.

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