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Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« on: September 08, 2011, 11:45:55 AM »
Ben Askren is undefeated and champion at welterweight in Bellator.   

Does he win a single match if he fought in the UFC from day one??  I think Askren is phenomenal at how he makes winning wrestling matches work, but fighting?  I think I could beat him fighting and I bruise easy.
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Re: Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2011, 12:03:02 PM »
Have you watched him fight?

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Re: Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 12:13:35 PM »
A little.  He can't strike, can he?  He takes down these opponents and somehow they don't submit him.  Or somehow they can't punch him standing up.   I wonder if these fights are like the ones in Japan where they are slightly fixed.   Maybe his opponents just stink.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2011, 12:21:46 PM »
He is most certainly garbage on his feet.  However, there is hardly a person who can out wrestle him.  He is also a world class BJJ practitioner.  If someone can't out wrestle him or sub him then their only option is to catch him on their feet.  He can too easily control a fight.  Boring?  Yes.  Hard to beat?  Very much so.

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Re: Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2011, 12:22:30 PM »
Watch the Lyman Good and Dan Hornbuckle fights.  They both had easy triangle chokes on him and RELEASED THEM.  I think those fights are fixed - what purpose for, your guess is as good as mine.
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Re: Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2011, 04:59:19 PM »
Watch the Lyman Good and Dan Hornbuckle fights.  They both had easy triangle chokes on him and RELEASED THEM.  I think those fights are fixed - what purpose for, your guess is as good as mine.

Hornbuckle never got his legs into a Figure 4 position. I think Askren forcing all of his weight on Good's neck and stretching it to its limit as he flipped him over probably had something to do him letting go of the triangle.
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Re: Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2011, 06:39:18 PM »
Since Jammen has told me twice to change my signature, I can only assume his wrestling knowledge is no longer something I can count on along with pizza and beer.

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2011, 08:50:04 PM »
If that's the case with both of those opponents, then the opponents are terrible.  If Fuhr believes for a second Askren would last against any top ten fighter in the UFC, then he is 'trolling'.   Its funny how the word "trolling" always happens when the common opinion is disagreed upon.   Goes with the territory on boards.
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2011, 09:31:59 PM »
No.  Trolling is when you make fixed fight accusations. 
Since Jammen has told me twice to change my signature, I can only assume his wrestling knowledge is no longer something I can count on along with pizza and beer.

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Re: Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 11:20:16 AM »
In MY OPINION, some of Kimbo Slice's fights looked fixed.   IN MY OPINION, those fights with Askren looked fixed.   AND IN MY OPINION, you are a D bag.
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Re: Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2011, 11:32:29 AM »
In MY OPINION, some of Kimbo Slice's fights looked fixed.   IN MY OPINION, those fights with Askren looked fixed.   AND IN MY OPINION, you are a D bag.

Why?  Because my opinion is different than yours? 
Since Jammen has told me twice to change my signature, I can only assume his wrestling knowledge is no longer something I can count on along with pizza and beer.

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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2011, 11:35:15 AM »
No, because you are simply a  D bag.
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Re: Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2011, 11:36:47 AM »
Alright guys, let's bring it back down to regularville.

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Re: Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2011, 11:42:26 AM »
Thank you SVV.

Let's discuss this reasonably though ... I can see why Elite XC would fix Kimbo's fights.  The guy had a huge internet following and was a big draw.  But, why would an organization fix fights for a "boring" wrestler that only people like us know about?
There's always Bulgaria.

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Re: Ben Askren Undefeated in MMA??? Something's fishy here.......
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2011, 11:42:45 AM »
Definitely a "lighten up, Francis" moment.
Imagine the good that could be done, if people were less worried about their differences, and more worried about doing good for everyone.