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« on: May 02, 2009, 10:02:06 PM »
I'm interested in what other wrestlers consider as a "sport". For the purposes of this poll, chose the activity that you think has the least qualities of a legitimate sport.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2009, 01:58:50 AM »
NONE are sports
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2009, 12:48:59 PM »
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NONE are sports
You could make a case for those "activities" that require some modicum of physical activity, but billiards and cards?
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2009, 01:35:25 PM »
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NONE are sports
I would vote for all but golf.  That is the only one close to being a sport.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2009, 12:30:55 AM »
espn would say they are all sports but wrestling is not
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2009, 09:15:42 AM »
I voted for Poker because it requires absolutely zero physical prowess to master. And at least in billiards one has to move his limbs in a skillful way. So based on the criteria doc gave, the least sporting is Poker. Having said that, I consider none of those things listed to be sport. The common definitions of sport and game have been convoluted IMO. The choices are all games IMO with the exception of horse racing which is simply a show or form of entertainment. If horse racing is considered a sport than logic leads one to the conclusion that any and all animals racing is a sport. Racing in general, with the exception of a foot race between humans, is not sport. It's a skilled game. Golf is a game. If you can be an alcoholic fat man and master it, it's a game. Sport to me, is a true test of a man. Driving fast, finding the best line to turn left, and being able to do it for hours is not sport. It's a skill to be sure but so is eating hot dogs or writing nicely or skating gracefully.
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2009, 01:43:30 PM »
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I voted for Poker because it requires absolutely zero physical prowess to master. And at least in billiards one has to move his limbs in a skillful way. So based on the criteria doc gave, the least sporting is Poker. Having said that, I consider none of those things listed to be sport. The common definitions of sport and game have been convoluted IMO. The choices are all games IMO with the exception of horse racing which is simply a show or form of entertainment. If horse racing is considered a sport than logic leads one to the conclusion that any and all animals racing is a sport. Racing in general, with the exception of a foot race between humans, is not sport. It's a skilled game. Golf is a game. If you can be an alcoholic fat man and master it, it's a game. Sport to me, is a true test of a man. Driving fast, finding the best line to turn left, and being able to do it for hours is not sport. It's a skill to be sure but so is eating hot dogs or writing nicely or skating gracefully.
Perfectly said.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2009, 07:56:37 PM »
Intensity - I generally agree with you, although I would contend that being a Jockey also requires skill and some amount of athleticism.

My feeling is that in order to be classified as a "sport" the activity should reequire the following 3 elements:

1)  A special "skill" unique to the sport.
2)  Some component of either cardiovascular endurance (track) or athleticism (high jump).
3)  The capacity for intense competition.

Every "sport" must have elements of all three, but the really tough sports will require all three to a great degree. Golf certainly requires #1 and #3, for example, but does not absolutely require a high degree of cv endurance or athleticism.

What do you think of this definition, and where to other activities/sports fit within this paradigm?
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2009, 11:00:50 AM »
All except poker are contests of skill, So Id probably include them.

Another way of looking at this is should the relative particpants be considered athletes?

Golf definately. Jokeys too as they need balance and strength. Car drivers? I met Al Unser once and he had forearms that looked like tree trunks. Strength and timing are needed so I'll include car drivers BARELY.

Pool players and bowlers? No, cant call them athletes.

Poker players? Dont make me laugh.
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Re: Which of these should not be considered a
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 09:14:47 AM »
Which of these should not be considered a "Sport"?

 - What are you guys looking at?  Where's the poll?
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Re: Which of these should not be considered a
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 03:28:00 PM »
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Which of these should not be considered a "Sport"?

 - What are you guys looking at?  Where's the poll?
Buck - the poll was on the other site. I guess it didn't migrate with the other stuff.

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Re: Which of these should not be considered a
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2009, 03:36:48 PM »
We are not sure if the will or not.
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Re: Which of these should not be considered a
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2009, 11:04:57 AM »
Ok thanks.  I'm a tit man by the way.
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Re: Which of these should not be considered a
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2009, 11:46:49 AM »
things that are judged on a subjective scale, like freestyle wrestling and ice skating, are not sports.
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