Would a man with nothing to hide behave like that?

[LoSt]

The voices of moderate republicans are being drowned out by wackos. This is not good for the party and for the country. Time for the moderates to speak up and the wackos to shut up.

If you mean Colin Powell, lets take a look at that.

No, I don't mean Colin Powell. I mean people like me and millions of others who support the Republican party because we believe in limited government, fiscal responsibility, pro-life, and the teachings of Jesus Christ, yet we don't believe in every extremist conspiracy theory that wackos like you and ctc and BOG believe in.

I salute you sir

[ctc]

What is the margin of error for this particular poll?  The sample size seems rather small to be valid.

I see with new posters like troll,the "no" vote is going up.  It doesn't really help that one has multiple user names - the poll leveled off at 19 - 3.  Turds sign on with a different computer and user name and pad the count.

[usnlt7676]

Why has OBAMA spent almost a million dollars to keep his long form birth certificate and college admissions records hidden instead of spending less than $50 dollars to have them released?

Would a man with nothing to hide behave like that?

No, but a man who cares far more about himself than any rule of law would. Obama is and always will be a crusader for liberalism and government control of the people. He believes that people are too stupid to control their own lives and would be best run by the smart people in the government, people like him conveniently enough.

All his empty words do not hide the fact that this is who he is.

[ViseGrip]

The voices of moderate republicans are being drowned out by wackos. This is not good for the party and for the country. Time for the moderates to speak up and the wackos to shut up.

If you mean Colin Powell, lets take a look at that.

No, I don't mean Colin Powell. I mean people like me and millions of others who support the Republican party because we believe in limited government, fiscal responsibility, pro-life, and the teachings of Jesus Christ, yet we don't believe in every extremist conspiracy theory that wackos like you and ctc and BOG believe in.

A. I've never said I believe Obama is foreign born. I have said I find it curious that he has it within his power to end this controversy by having the vault copy released but wont.

B. Acknowledging this fact is no less logical than the belief of a diety that cannot be seen or proved. So I will resist the temptation to call you a religious whacko.

[usnlt7676]

People who think the Republicans are doomed don't understand history. People's political leanings change like the wind...now that the Dems have power, if the economy collapses completely they will be blamed for it and the winds of change will blow again. The only thing the Dems could do in that case is try to blame Bush again, and that actually may work b/c people are suckers for pretty speeches.

[StephanVonVesthell]

You won't believe this video I found of BOG's home town hall meeting.
[video:3q3za9bx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1nmn2zRMc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecynical%2Dc%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded[/video:3q3za9bx]

[StephanVonVesthell]

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!

[Jimmy the Gent]

You won't believe this video I found of BOG's home town hall meeting.
[video:aif478le]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1nmn2zRMc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecynical%2Dc%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded[/video:aif478le]

that was really embarrassing to watch, especially when they did the Pledge of Allegiance.

[ViseGrip]

You won't believe this video I found of BOG's home town hall meeting.
[video:394jkl50]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1nmn2zRMc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecynical%2Dc%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded[/video:394jkl50]

that was really embarrassing to watch, especially when they did the Pledge of Allegiance.

I wasn't embarrassed at all, why should you be?

I see people very alarmed with the direction their country is being taken and they're DAMNED IRATE about it. Instead of screaming foul language and shouting down the speaker as liberals do, they protest by breaking into the Pledge of Allegiance.  It looks like our Republican form of government in action to me.

[Jimmy the Gent]

[video:2myp16t1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mKSv_Qe_cs&feature=related[/video:2myp16t1]

[StephanVonVesthell]

You won't believe this video I found of BOG's home town hall meeting.
[video:10q2wd1k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1nmn2zRMc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecynical%2Dc%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded[/video:10q2wd1k]

that was really embarrassing to watch, especially when they did the Pledge of Allegiance.

I wasn't embarrassed at all, why should you be?

I see people very alarmed with the direction their country is being taken and they're DAMNED IRATE about it. Instead of screaming foul language and shouting down the speaker as liberals do, they protest by breaking into the Pledge of Allegiance.  It looks like our Republican form of government in action to me.

Sure, if it was really up for debate.




Birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth and Certifications of Live Birth) and Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are the primary documents used to determine native Hawaiian qualification.

The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth. The Certificate of Live Birth generally has more information which is useful for genealogical purposes as compared to the Certification of Live Birth which is a computer-generated printout that provides specific details of a person’s birth. Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.


Hawaii has two major newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin.

BOTH newspapers include birth announcements, and BOTH newspapers record the August 4th, 1961 birth of Barack Obama.


Look at the arrows.
http://http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php







Factcheck.org did an entire piece on this issue.  From what I understand they don't offer much spin.  
http://http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller


Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp


The raised seal


Blowup of text


Blowup of certificate number


What more do the drooling 'birthers' want from him?

[alias]

bog is an idiot, let him go on with his crusade.  He probably also believes the moon landing was a hoax and that 9/11 was a controlled demolition and an inside job.

[Jimmy the Gent]

bog is an idiot, let him go on with his crusade.  He probably also believes the moon landing was a hoax and that 9/11 was a controlled demolition and an inside job.

good points about BOG.  don't forget he probably thinks bush denotated the levees in New Orleans.

[StephanVonVesthell]

I just don't understand how someone can latch onto like this with overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

[BOG]

I guess some Obamamaniacs didn't like my joke"THE INDIAN STUDENT" so they 've scurried out from their rat nests to launch attacks on old threads. :lol: