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17 All-Americans
« on: March 22, 2014, 09:29:46 am »
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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2014, 09:50:24 am »
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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2014, 11:28:44 am »
We already knew PA would be first and Ohio second.

Which are the the best of the rest?

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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2014, 11:35:55 am »
If CA had 15 D1 programs, it would be different.

I think if every state had an even playing field, the numbers would be much different.
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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2014, 11:53:14 am »
For the Keystone state. Hands down the best state in the nation for HS and college wrestling.

Do you have the complete list Di?
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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014, 12:19:01 pm »
If CA had 15 D1 programs, it would be different.

I think if every state had an even playing field, the numbers would be much different.

I don't. Go look at how many PA kids are All-Americans at schools outside of PA.
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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014, 12:45:05 pm »
Pennsylvania definitely has the best HS wrestling but college wrestling doesn't just include D1. If you look at other divisions as well I think Iowa holds that honor.

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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2014, 02:05:02 pm »
PA also has a ton of kids in Division II and Division III.  Few in the NAIA.

I think it's PA overall.
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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 02:30:05 pm »
Are you talking about AA's that are in Pennsylvania colleges or went to high school in Pennsylvania?

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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 02:44:38 pm »
I'm under the belief that if a state like CA, had more D1 colleges, like PA does, it would have more D1 wrestlers competing and would be the same if not better than PA.
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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2014, 02:55:34 pm »
I'm under the belief that if a state like CA, had more D1 colleges, like PA does, it would have more D1 wrestlers competing and would be the same if not better than PA.

Not going to argue what you believe, but if you apply the same principle, North Carolina should have more All-Americans. (North Carolina, N.C. State, Duke, Campbell, Gardner-Webb, Appalachian State, Davidson).

Wrestling's a big part of the culture in big pockets of the state. It's not like all the PA All-Americans were at PA schools.
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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2014, 03:10:33 pm »
Pennsylvania 17 AA's for population base of 12,773,801   or 1 AA for every 751,400
Iowa 6 AAs with population base of 3090416 1 AA for every 515,069




I'll take those numbers for the little state of Iowa. 
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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2014, 03:26:12 pm »
If CA had 15 D1 programs, it would be different.

I think if every state had an even playing field, the numbers would be much different.
Actually, it's eleven:

Bloomsburg
Bucknell
Clarion
Drexel
Edinboro
Franklin & Marshall
Lehigh
Lock Haven
Pittsburgh
Penn State
Pennsylvania

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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2014, 03:30:47 pm »
Pennsylvania 17 AA's for population base of 12,773,801   or 1 AA for every 751,400
Iowa 6 AAs with population base of 3090416 1 AA for every 515,069




I'll take those numbers for the little state of Iowa.

That works if you include old ladies and babies in your denominator (per capita).  Using number of participants listed in the NCAA tournament program:

PA:  17 AAs / 9,740 HS participants = 1.745 AAs for every 1000 participants
IA:  6 AAs / 6,709 HS participants = 0.894 AAs for every 1000 participants

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Re: 17 All-Americans
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2014, 03:32:29 pm »
I'm under the belief that if a state like CA, had more D1 colleges, like PA does, it would have more D1 wrestlers competing and would be the same if not better than PA.

Not going to argue what you believe, but if you apply the same principle, North Carolina should have more All-Americans. (North Carolina, N.C. State, Duke, Campbell, Gardner-Webb, Appalachian State, Davidson).

Wrestling's a big part of the culture in big pockets of the state. It's not like all the PA All-Americans were at PA schools.

True but CA has better wrestling than NC.
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