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Offline New2TheGameNYRef

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Couple other questions:
« on: January 10, 2016, 02:44:14 pm »
1) Wrestler A has no legs.

What are the proper starting positions for

a) Neutral?
b) Top?
c) Bottom?

2) Wrestler B is "visually impaired"

Is there documentation required or do we take the coach/wrestler's word?

Thanks.

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Re: Couple other questions:
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2016, 09:15:25 pm »
1) Wrestler A has no legs.

What are the proper starting positions for

a) Neutral?
b) Top?
c) Bottom?

I believe the approach is to use the closest reasonable approximation of normal requirements.  Disabilities present a lot of possible variations, and I would be surprised if any attempt has been made to address them systematically.  Unless something more concrete turns up, I think it's the referee's duty to use his judgment, and be reasonable, fair, and inclusive.  A conference with the other refs, when such an athlete shows up, would help with consistency.

2) Wrestler B is "visually impaired"

Is there documentation required or do we take the coach/wrestler's word?

I don't know of such a requirement.  It would be burdensome for a blind wrestler to present documentation at every competition, for the sake of preventing the very unlikely case of someone else faking it.  Take their word on it, unless there's good reason to doubt.

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Re: Couple other questions:
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2016, 08:31:27 am »
Thanks for reply!

The wrestler with no legs makes complete sense and that was my best educated guess on what to do, but just wanted to clarify since more and more wrestlers of this nature are coming to light since Anthony Robles success!

In regards to "visually impaired." This a HUGE SPECTRUM I think. I have officiated wrestlers who needed a handler to get on the mat and starting position, while other wrestlers who could report to the scorer's table, check in, get to the center, put on the right anklet and go at it. I'm just curious if there is a specific prescription one needs to qualify for the "Touch-Starts" and contact at all times in neutral position.

I'm just curious to know what qualifies as "visually impaired"

thanks so much gentlemen.

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Re: Couple other questions:
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2016, 04:18:26 pm »
I've had a few coaches accuse me of being visually impaired.   8)

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Re: Couple other questions:
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2016, 04:24:26 pm »
For NCAA matches, wrestlers that claim some sort of visual impairment have to send documentation to the Secretary-Rules Editor for verification and approval.  For high school, there is no such standard. 

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Re: Couple other questions:
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2016, 04:57:59 pm »
Thank you. I think there should be something for high school. Touch-starts, in addition to be in contact at all times in a neutral position can be quite advantageous for the "visually Impaired" wrestler as their opponent might have to adjust their style of neutral wrestling. A wrestler who typically doesn't like to tie-up, now by rule, is forced to to tie-up. Regardless, thanks for this information. I would like the NFHS to come up with an objective manner of what qualifies as a visually impaired wrestler.


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Re: Couple other questions:
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2016, 07:52:00 pm »
I've had a few coaches accuse me of being visually impaired.   8)

I know the feeling.  ;D
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Re: Couple other questions:
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2016, 05:45:55 pm »
I've had a few coaches accuse me of being visually impaired.   8)

I know the feeling.  ;D
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