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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2016, 08:50:35 PM »
Serious question but what is a "semi-state" or what does it mean to win one?

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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2016, 10:54:53 PM »
I'm single class Indiana the path to "State" takes place in several stages.  It begins with sectionals, the top placers in each sectional moves on to regionals the following weekend.  The top placers at regionals move on to semistate ( 4 locations)the following weekend,  the top 4 finishers from each semi-state moves onto "State" (16 men per weight class)the last weekend.
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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2016, 11:00:59 AM »
I'm single class Indiana the path to "State" takes place in several stages.  It begins with sectionals, the top placers in each sectional moves on to regionals the following weekend.  The top placers at regionals move on to semistate ( 4 locations)the following weekend,  the top 4 finishers from each semi-state moves onto "State" (16 men per weight class)the last weekend.

Thats 5 weeks to determine a state champion. Too long in my opinon.
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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2016, 01:20:12 PM »
I'm single class Indiana the path to "State" takes place in several stages.  It begins with sectionals, the top placers in each sectional moves on to regionals the following weekend.  The top placers at regionals move on to semistate ( 4 locations)the following weekend,  the top 4 finishers from each semi-state moves onto "State" (16 men per weight class)the last weekend.

Thats 5 weeks to determine a state champion. Too long in my opinon.

My counting says four, sectional, regionals, semistates, states.
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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2016, 02:13:47 PM »
I'm single class Indiana the path to "State" takes place in several stages.  It begins with sectionals, the top placers in each sectional moves on to regionals the following weekend.  The top placers at regionals move on to semistate ( 4 locations)the following weekend,  the top 4 finishers from each semi-state moves onto "State" (16 men per weight class)the last weekend.

Thats 5 weeks to determine a state champion. Too long in my opinon.

My counting says four, sectional, regionals, semistates, states.
Yes, and thank you for that correction, but its still too long. Drop Semi-state or sectionals
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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2016, 02:37:50 PM »
You couldn't really drop a level. There are over 310 schools in one class.  If you dropped sectionals each regional would have 20-25 kids with a 5 match limit per day you couldn't have wrestle backs to 3rd.

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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2016, 02:37:56 PM »
Or add another class.  Or just leave their unique system as is.

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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2016, 02:56:02 PM »
I coached in Iowa for 3 years and their system doesn't compare to Indianas.  Indiana's state tournament truly is special.

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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2016, 06:03:25 PM »
You couldn't really drop a level. There are over 310 schools in one class.  If you dropped sectionals each regional would have 20-25 kids with a 5 match limit per day you couldn't have wrestle backs to 3rd.
Drop semi state
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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2016, 07:39:46 PM »
I coached in Iowa for 3 years and their system doesn't compare to Indianas.  Indiana's state tournament truly is special.

Boom! This comes from a indiana state champ that came from a tiny school!
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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2016, 08:47:06 PM »
You couldn't really drop a level. There are over 310 schools in one class.  If you dropped sectionals each regional would have 20-25 kids with a 5 match limit per day you couldn't have wrestle backs to 3rd.
Drop semi state

And send 64 guys to state per weight?

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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2016, 10:10:01 PM »
Nothing wrong with multiple layer qualifiers, I like the idea of a single class. 

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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2016, 01:10:58 PM »
You couldn't really drop a level. There are over 310 schools in one class.  If you dropped sectionals each regional would have 20-25 kids with a 5 match limit per day you couldn't have wrestle backs to 3rd.
Drop semi state

And send 64 guys to state per weight?

Hmm... I see you point.

Count me in with those that think you need more classifications.
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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2016, 02:18:47 PM »
Some state tournaments only have an 8 man bracket.  Colorado at one time had 5 classifications and 12 man brackets.

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Re: Nick Lee vs Chad Red
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2016, 01:10:18 PM »
Red vs Lee will happen tonight.

Lee is looking real sharp and definitely not showing any signs of any lingering injury. Red is on autopilot. He's been super impressive and poised in big matches for a couple years now. I don't know... I'll take Red.
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