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All-time career pin record
« on: December 31, 2016, 03:33:07 PM »
I'm posting this as reference to be easily found.  I'm also adding Dan Severn to the list per the ASU site.

01) 107 Gene Mills
02) 106 Wade Schalles
03) 94 Larry Bielenberg
04) 91 Ben Askren
05) 87 Howard Harris
t6) 76 Hudson Taylor
t6) 76 Dan Gable
t8) 73 Jayson Ness
t8) 73 Ed Banach
t8) 73 Dan Severn
11) 71 Stephen Neal
12) 69 Taylor Walsh
13) 68 Scott Moore
14) 67 Mike Land
t15) 66 Corey Olson
t15) 66 Len Kauffman
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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2016, 05:53:58 PM »
Both Wade and Gene claim they hold the record.

Wade claims he's the only wrestler with over 100 pins.

WrestlingStats.com gives Gene the record with 107.
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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2018, 03:40:03 PM »
I'm posting this as reference to be easily found.  I'm also adding Dan Severn to the list per the ASU site.

01) 107 Gene Mills
02) 106 Wade Schalles
03) 94 Larry Bielenberg
04) 91 Ben Askren
05) 87 Howard Harris
t6) 76 Hudson Taylor
t6) 76 Dan Gable
t8) 73 Jayson Ness
t8) 73 Ed Banach
t8) 73 Dan Severn
11) 71 Stephen Neal
12) 69 Taylor Walsh
13) 68 Scott Moore
14) 67 Mike Land
t15) 66 Corey Olson
t15) 66 Len Kauffman
t15) 66 Gary Albright

Added Gary Albright
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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2018, 04:12:14 PM »
Thanks for keeping this correct Jammen!

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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2018, 05:48:20 PM »
Wrestlers are sooooooo analytical.

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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2018, 01:57:16 PM »
Still missing the true pin king and it has been proven Mills could not have gotten to 107.

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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2018, 08:24:34 AM »
Schalles is also the jerk king.
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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2018, 03:14:44 PM »
Still missing the true pin king and it has been proven Mills could not have gotten to 107.

He must have pinned some guys twice in a match!!

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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2018, 11:14:57 AM »
Still missing the true pin king and it has been proven Mills could not have gotten to 107.

Maybe the best thing to do would be to not consider Sears, Mills, and Schalles.  All the others on the list have been verified.
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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2018, 11:18:32 AM »
How about this list:

01) 94 Larry Bielenberg
02) 91 Ben Askren
03) 87 Howard Harris
t4) 76 Hudson Taylor
t4) 76 Dan Gable
t6) 73 Jayson Ness
t6) 73 Ed Banach
t6) 73 Dan Severn
09) 71 Stephen Neal
10) 69 Taylor Walsh
11) 68 Scott Moore
12) 67 Mike Land
t13) 66 Corey Olson
t13) 66 Len Kauffman
t13) 66 Gary Albright

* Al Sears, Wade Schalles, Gene Mills are unverified
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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2018, 09:48:27 AM »
Still missing the true pin king and it has been proven Mills could not have gotten to 107.

Maybe the best thing to do would be to not consider Sears, Mills, and Schalles.  All the others on the list have been verified.

I need to go back and check my research. I had stumbled across something that said how many of Mills pins had been verified by Mr. Hammond when he was working on it. I'm sure he is still high on the list. If you take Sears and Schalles out, he may still be number one.

My personal preference would be to include the DII guys that wrestled in the DI tournament, but cutting them out is certainly a reasonable approach too. Both Schalles and Sears wrestled a legitimate schedule tougher than some DI teams so that wouldn't be an issue. It is simply an oddity of wrestling from that era.

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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2018, 01:01:54 PM »
I agree that Sears and Schalles deserve to be included in any all-time pinning despite being D2 as I know that they wrestled very strong schedules.  My only reservation is that all the others listed are verified by their schools.  Perhaps I should list them with an asterick.
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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2018, 04:07:06 AM »
If folks want to remove Sears because he was a Division II athlete, then you have to remove Schalles for the same stipulation. Both had to go through the College Division/Division II tournament to wrestle at the Division I tournament.

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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2018, 10:37:29 AM »
Agree that they both deserve to be included in D1 pinning list.  Only issue is trying to verify.  SIU-Edwardsville has Sears with 112 pins 1981-1985.  Since they list stats for 1984 and 1985 where he had 30 in 1985 and 27 in 1984 I can be fairly confident that 112 pins is for fours years, not five. 

Schalles is harder to pin down (pun deliberate).  Clarion has him at 106 with double **'s, no explanation given.  Wikipedia has him at 109, while Slippery Rock has eliminated all their wrestling info.

Syracuse lists Mills (1977-1981) at 107 pins.
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