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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2018, 06:09:05 PM »
Just avoid saying D 1.  Collegiate Pinning List.

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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2018, 04:31:53 PM »
Agree that they both deserve to be included in D1 pinning list.  Only issue is trying to verify.  SIU-Edwardsville has Sears with 112 pins 1981-1985.  Since they list stats for 1984 and 1985 where he had 30 in 1985 and 27 in 1984 I can be fairly confident that 112 pins is for fours years, not five. 

Schalles is harder to pin down (pun deliberate).  Clarion has him at 106 with double **'s, no explanation given.  Wikipedia has him at 109, while Slippery Rock has eliminated all their wrestling info.

Syracuse lists Mills (1977-1981) at 107 pins.

I will say that when I spoke to Schalles, he had his total at 106, even when I mentioned the 109 total. It seems like that number started floating around after some people (far before I looked into it) started questioning Mills' total. I've found no basis for it.

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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2018, 11:35:27 AM »
01) 112 Al Sears
02) 107 Gene Mills
03) 106 Wade Schalles
04) 94 Larry Bielenberg
05) 91 Ben Askren
06) 87 Howard Harris
t7) 76 Hudson Taylor
t7) 76 Dan Gable
t9) 73 Jayson Ness
t9) 73 Ed Banach
t9) 73 Dan Severn
12) 71 Stephen Neal
13) 70 Chris Taylor
14) 69 Taylor Walsh
15) 68 Scott Moore
16) 67 Mike Land
t17) 66 Corey Olson
t17) 66 Len Kauffman
t17) 66 Gary Albright

Need one more for top twenty.
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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2018, 03:38:46 PM »

01) 112 Al Sears


Typo or more research ? 

https://news.theopenmat.com/college-wrestling-news/ncaa-wrestlings-time-pin-king-part-2/63030

Quote from: The Open Mat 05/12/2017

In part one of our attempt to answer the question of who is NCAA wrestling’s all-time pin king, we tackled the debate over whether Gene Mills (Syracuse) broke Wade Schalles’ (Clarion) NCAA record of 106 career falls. However, while those two are cited at the top of many all-time college wrestling pins lists, there is another wrestler out there who may have topped them both. Al Sears of Southern Illinois University Edwardsville is said to have had 122 pins in his career, though when I spoke with him he confirmed that his official total was 110. The discrepancy could well be the for same reasons that Mills’ total was so hard to pin down. There were more unofficial matches back then that did not count on official records. Regardless, 110 is still enough to make Sears the all-time pin king in college wrestling.


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Re: All-time career pin record
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2018, 10:45:04 AM »

01) 112 Al Sears


Typo or more research ? 

https://news.theopenmat.com/college-wrestling-news/ncaa-wrestlings-time-pin-king-part-2/63030

Quote from: The Open Mat 05/12/2017

In part one of our attempt to answer the question of who is NCAA wrestling’s all-time pin king, we tackled the debate over whether Gene Mills (Syracuse) broke Wade Schalles’ (Clarion) NCAA record of 106 career falls. However, while those two are cited at the top of many all-time college wrestling pins lists, there is another wrestler out there who may have topped them both. Al Sears of Southern Illinois University Edwardsville is said to have had 122 pins in his career, though when I spoke with him he confirmed that his official total was 110. The discrepancy could well be the for same reasons that Mills’ total was so hard to pin down. There were more unofficial matches back then that did not count on official records. Regardless, 110 is still enough to make Sears the all-time pin king in college wrestling.


112 is what SIUE has listed: https://www.siuecougars.com/sports/m-wrestl/archive/general
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