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Offline New2TheGameNYRef

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Can you wave a 2pt takedown off in the 1st Overtime?
« on: February 28, 2018, 02:41:10 PM »
First OT....

Wrestler A takes Wrestler B down, Ref quickly calls 2, but within a hair of a second, they're in a 50-50 situation. You've all seen what I'm talking about in a regulation portion of a match. I think we've all waved off a call at least once. Imagine this situation now in Overtime.  Yes, in OT, we need to be a little more patient. However, for discussion purposes.....can you wave off a 2 pt takedown (regardless if the scoring wrestler stops or continues action)? 

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Re: Can you wave a 2pt takedown off in the 1st Overtime?
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2018, 03:40:35 PM »
Yes.  You won't be that popular with some team but you can do it.

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Re: Can you wave a 2pt takedown off in the 1st Overtime?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2018, 05:13:47 PM »
Absolutely, if you believe you were quick with the call. It happens. The important thing is to get the call right, even if you have to eat your original call.
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Re: Can you wave a 2pt takedown off in the 1st Overtime?
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2018, 06:17:38 PM »
My follow-up question is this.....

Coach takes you to the table and says,

"My wrestler stopped wrestling the second you called 2 points [thinking the match was over]!"

"How do you expect my wrestler to continue to wrestle when he thinks the match is officially over?"

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Re: Can you wave a 2pt takedown off in the 1st Overtime?
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2018, 06:41:11 PM »
Well, if it's OT, you should have blown the whistle when you called the TD, so of course he stopped wrestling.
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Re: Can you wave a 2pt takedown off in the 1st Overtime?
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2018, 07:07:17 PM »
I fully understand, but for discussion purposes, the ref didn't have a chance to blow the whistle because everything happened so fast....Is this correctable? ....

As in ref calls 2 [ for Wrestler A]
Wrestler A stops Wrestling
B Continues to wrestle
Ref waves off 2
Flurry of action continues (all the aforementioned occurs in less than 2 seconds), wrestlers go out of bounds....even worse...Wrestler B scores a takedown.

Wrestler A's coach approaches the table.....

What is the right thing to do?

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Re: Can you wave a 2pt takedown off in the 1st Overtime?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2018, 10:43:37 PM »
Your bad call caused the kid to stop wrestling. Call it bad time and start again from where you called the TD.
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Re: Can you wave a 2pt takedown off in the 1st Overtime?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2018, 08:27:26 AM »
Thank you, Akin. I hope to NEVER EVER be in this situation, but wasn't sure if it was correctable. I don't know why I think of these scenarios, but they pop up every once in a while. Thank you, again.

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Re: Can you wave a 2pt takedown off in the 1st Overtime?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2018, 08:40:12 PM »
We call that a tabletop exercise.  Its the best way to learn from difficult situations even though you may never encounter them.  We used to do that informally in the idle time before a tournament.  Throw out a situation and chat about it.  It is incredibly helpful since a lot of the calls are split second decisions. Worst case is when you've made the wrong call and its too late to correct it. I can tell you there are many a ref out there that were glad that video review was available that enabled them to reverse a bad call without criticism.