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Will the Democrats try to ram the bill through?

Yes
5 (100%)
No
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 4

Voting closed: December 09, 2009, 09:22:04 AM

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Offline Cougar1

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Health Care Bill
« on: December 09, 2009, 09:22:04 AM »
Here is the latest polling data on the health care bill:

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Voters disapprove 52 - 38 percent of the health care reform proposal under consideration in Congress,

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1403

Will the Democrats, at the risk of their future ability to retain power, continue to press for the passage of legislation which is quite contrary to current public opinion?
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Offline ViseGrip

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Re: Health Care Bill
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 11:01:18 AM »
IF.... they drop the public option like this article suggests I think it will.

Dems to drop public option from overhaul
By The Associated Press  
Published: December 9, 2009

WASHINGTON — After days of secret talks, Senate Democrats tentatively agreed Tuesday night to drop a government-run insurance option from sweeping health care legislation, several officials said, a concession to party moderates whose votes are critical to passage of President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority.

In its place, officials said Democrats had tentatively settled on a private insurance arrangement to be supervised by the federal agency that oversees the system through which lawmakers purchase coverage. Additionally, the emerging agreement calls for Medicare to be opened to uninsured Americans beginning at age 55, a significant expansion of the health care program that currently serves the 65-and-over population.

At a hastily called evening news conference in the Capitol, Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., declined to provide details of what he described as a "broad agreement” between liberals and moderates on an issue that has plagued efforts to pass health care legislation from the outset.

The officials who described the details of the closed-door negotiations did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss them publicly.

At its core, the legislation would expand health care to millions who lack it, ban insurance companies from denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing conditions and rein in the rise of health care spending nationally.

The developments followed a vote on the Senate floor earlier in the day in which abortion opponents failed to inject tougher restrictions into the sweeping health care bill, and Democratic leaders labored to ensure that fallout from the issue didn’t hamper the drive to enact the legislation. The final vote was 54-45.


http://www.newsok.com/dems-to-drop-publ ... z0ZCwhXoQO
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Re: Health Care Bill
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 11:46:37 AM »
Did they get permission from Nancy P? She IS the ruler in chief you know.
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Re: Health Care Bill
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 11:53:35 AM »
Quote from: "Cougar1"
Did they get permission from Nancy P? She IS the ruler in chief you know.

I have said all along that the Dims are being INCREDIBLY stupid here. Unfortunately, I think they are finally thinking strategically rather than tactically.

Leave the so-called government option out. Focus on regulating insurance companies so onerously with mandates like elimination of preexisting conditions that insurance companies are forced to raise premiums drastically. By forcing it become even harder to get covered, they can THEN come back in a few years with that so-called "option".
"The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is never enough of anything to satisfy all that want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics" -Thomas Sowell