UFC on Versus 2

fuhr · **Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:29 pm

Sunday night. Who's everyone betting on/cheering for?

Jon Jones vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Yushin Okami (No. 8 MW) vs. Mark Munoz
Jake Ellenberger vs. John Howard
Takanori Gomi vs. Tyson Griffin
DaMarques Johnson vs. Matt Riddle
Paul Kelly vs. Jacob Volkmann
James Irvin vs. Igor Pokrajac
Brian Stann vs. Mike Massenzio
Rob Kimmons vs. Steve Steinbeiss
Darren Elkins vs. Charles Oliveira

StephanVonVesthell · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:43 am

fuhr wrote:

Sunday night. Who's everyone betting on/cheering for?

Highlighted fighter = who I'm cheering for.
Jon Jones vs. Vladimir Matyushenko I'd bet on Jones. I like the style and abilities of Jones, but I think he is a tool. I think Vlad is a much cooler fellow than his younger opponent and wouldn't be pissed to see him win.
Yushin Okami (No. 8 MW) vs. Mark Munoz I'd bet on Munoz.
Jake Ellenberger vs. John Howard I'd bet on Howard.
Takanori Gomi vs. Tyson Griffin Hard one to bet on.
DaMarques Johnson vs. Matt Riddle No bet. I do not like Riddle though.
Paul Kelly vs. Jacob Volkmann I'd bet on Volkmann.
James Irvin vs. Igor Pokrajac I'd bet on Irvin. I hate Irvin.
Brian Stann vs. Mike Massenzio I'd bet on Massenzio. I don't think Stann is good.
Rob Kimmons vs. Steve Steinbeiss Don't care.
Darren Elkins vs. Charles Oliveira Two good prospects, don't know enough about either.

MetsFan · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:06 am

Jon Jones vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Yushin Okami (No. 8 MW) vs. Mark Munoz
Jake Ellenberger vs. John Howard
Takanori Gomi vs. Tyson Griffin
DaMarques Johnson vs. Matt Riddle
Paul Kelly vs. Jacob Volkmann
James Irvin vs. Igor Pokrajac
Brian Stann vs. Mike Massenzio
Rob Kimmons vs. Steve Steinbeiss
Darren Elkins vs. Charles Oliveira

Viratas · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:13 am

Jon Jones vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Yushin Okami (No. 8 MW) vs. Mark Munoz
Jake Ellenberger vs. John Howard
Takanori Gomi vs. Tyson Griffin
DaMarques Johnson vs. Matt Riddle
Paul Kelly vs. Jacob Volkmann
James Irvin vs. Igor Pokrajac
Brian Stann vs. Mike Massenzio
Rob Kimmons vs. Steve Steinbeiss
Darren Elkins vs. Charles Oliveira

a guest · **Joined:** Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:22 am **Posts:** 740

When Sunday night will this be televised? I'm seven hours ahead of the US East Coast.

fuhr · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:17 pm

a guest wrote:

When Sunday night will this be televised? I'm seven hours ahead of the US East Coast.

Starts at 8pm central.

StephanVonVesthell · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:31 am

I feel the need to reiterate. I do not like Jones. He is a self-righteous, cocky bastard. I'd like to see Vlad knock him cold.

fuhr · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:32 am

StephanVonVesthell wrote:

I feel the need to reiterate. I do not like Jones. He is a self-righteous, cocky bastard. I'd like to see Vlad knock him cold.

I trust your opinion SVV but it surprises me. I heard an interview with Jones and he seemed quite the opposite of that. Of course, it was a radio interview and he could have just been on good behavior.

StephanVonVesthell · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:28 pm

Drunk post. He's not as bad as I just stated.

fuhr · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:28 pm

StephanVonVesthell wrote:

Drunk post. He's not as bad as I just stated.

I'd like to see Vlad KO him to but for entirely different, purely financial, reasons.

Drooke · **Joined:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:36 pm **Posts:** 4806

Jon Jones vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Yushin Okami (No. 8 MW) vs. Mark Munoz
Jake Ellenberger vs. John Howard
Takanori Gomi vs. Tyson Griffin
DaMarques Johnson vs. Matt Riddle
Paul Kelly vs. Jacob Volkmann
James Irvin vs. Igor Pokrajac
Brian Stann vs. Mike Massenzio
Rob Kimmons vs. Steve Steinbeiss
Darren Elkins vs. Charles Oliveira

I always thought Jon Jones came across as a family first confident young man that has made me a fan with his exciting performances inside of the octagon....but than again I'm sober at the moment so I may get back to this thread later.

red viking · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:03 pm

Jon Jones 1st round TKO/KO (this won't even be a match).
Okami 2nd round submission

red viking · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:49 pm

red viking wrote:

Jon Jones 1st round TKO/KO (this won't even be a match).
Okami 2nd round submission

Give me some props on these 2 fights. I was pretty darn close to being right on.

Drooke · **Joined:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:36 pm **Posts:** 4806

6-4 meh

StephanVonVesthell · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:49 pm

I take back pretty much everything negative that I said of Jones. He's a classy dude.

Drooke · **Joined:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:36 pm **Posts:** 4806

Drooke · **Joined:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:36 pm **Posts:** 4806

What do you guys think about fighters "refusing" to fight guys that are their teammates?

I personally believe they are professional fighters and business is business.....not to sound to danaesque....

fuhr · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:31 pm

I only want to see guys fight each other that want to. I would hope they are all willing to for the right price/title at stake but I don't want to see two guys forced to fight each other put on a half assed grappling match because they don't want to punch each other.

Which guy gets forced to leave camp? Which guy gets the lead trainer? Who corners who? I say avoid it if at all possible but if it's 1 vs 2 in a weight class, champion and top challenger, then I guess I'd hope the natural competition comes out in the guys and the fight is made.

Drooke · **Joined:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:36 pm **Posts:** 4806

At the lower levels and shows I 100% agree with ya Fuhr. When you get to the upper echelon of the sport If you are on the ladder you should be ready to fight any and everybody. If two pros on the UFC level were to give less then their best because they were training partners I would ditch them.

fuhr · **Posted:** Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:27 am

I go to Koz vs. Fitch: Unless Koz beats GSP, Fitch beats Alves, Koz beats GSP in the immediate rematch, Fitch beats GSP, Koz beats Alves, and they both beat any other up and comer I haven't listed; Then, and only then, do I want to see 2 guys, who don't want to fight each other, fight each other.

I wish it were as easy as, professionals. Baseball players who are friends face off everyday, but they don't have to punch each other in the face. For some fighters it's not a big deal and they can put it aside, but for guys who say they will move weight classes before they fight each other (Fitch and Koz) what kind of fight would we see between them anyway?

Viratas · **Posted:** Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:44 am

Fighters Fight! Glamour Queens whine!

I am kidding, If you are a pro fighter then you fight who they pay you to fight.

Thats just my .02

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