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Wrestling => International => Topic started by: drmuscle on June 07, 2011, 10:37:53 AM

Title: WTT; 55kg
Post by: drmuscle on June 07, 2011, 10:37:53 AM
Blanc
Cejudo
Dennis
Escobedo
Felix
Hazewinkel
Nickerson
Simmons.

There is some great depth here.  Should be an exciting bracket to watch.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: crablegs on June 07, 2011, 10:55:53 AM
Agree there is some good depth.  A lot of those guys are very unproven at the international level.  Some good young talent for the USA though.  Hopefully a lot of those guys stick til 2016.  Most likely won't. 
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: nywrestler4life on June 07, 2011, 01:38:30 PM
I think Haze is the most dangerous other than cejudo.  Probably one of the only guys in all of U.S. freestyle who can wrestle with the top Russians and Europeans upper body.  I'd like to see some of these guys (Dennis, Escobedo, Blanc, Nickerson) around through 2016 and maybe even 2020.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: vaisforlovers on June 09, 2011, 10:12:57 AM
Puttin this out there, say what you want:  But is Henry Cejudo talented enough to take off 2 years and come back for a few months and best the guys who have been at it for a few years straight?

It's not as though Henry had a strangle hold on the weight prior to his hiatus.  He was the best, but had his share of losses to a few tough USA guys.  In my opinion the USA field is only deeper and stronger than it was when Henry left.

Henry caught lightning in a bottle for the Olympics and showed his talents.  He was his best when he had to be and that is commendable, but prior to his Gold Medal his international results did not do much to indicate he was primed and ready to win Gold.

This is my opinion, and I wonder if anyone agrees that Henry might not be able to just throw his hat in the ring and make the world team.

If he does it, it will show what a true freak he is.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: Rockhard on June 09, 2011, 11:46:49 AM
Making weight for the first time in a while, might prove to be an issue. But who knows. Anything can happen.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: Cougar1 on June 09, 2011, 12:43:55 PM
Puttin this out there, say what you want:  But is Henry Cejudo talented enough to take off 2 years and come back for a few months and best the guys who have been at it for a few years straight?

It's not as though Henry had a strangle hold on the weight prior to his hiatus.  He was the best, but had his share of losses to a few tough USA guys.  In my opinion the USA field is only deeper and stronger than it was when Henry left.

Henry caught lightning in a bottle for the Olympics and showed his talents.  He was his best when he had to be and that is commendable, but prior to his Gold Medal his international results did not do much to indicate he was primed and ready to win Gold.

This is my opinion, and I wonder if anyone agrees that Henry might not be able to just throw his hat in the ring and make the world team.

If he does it, it will show what a true freak he is.

He looked pretty good in Times Square but I was not familiar with his opponent. One correction in your post. Henry wasn't entirely "off" for the past two years. He trained in MMA and boxing so he was keeping in shape. I do think getting to weight would have been an issue but I think he made a good choice for himself by going to IA and training with Terry again. You are right that if he does it again he will be THE MAN.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: Spladlemaster on June 09, 2011, 01:53:29 PM
Hopefully the true spladlemaster can pull this out.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: AKIN on June 09, 2011, 01:56:48 PM
Don't see Simmons having much of a shot here, just my opinion.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: vaisforlovers on June 09, 2011, 03:17:23 PM
nm
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: AKIN on June 09, 2011, 03:19:11 PM
Interesting. Wonder what changed his mind?
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: vaisforlovers on June 09, 2011, 03:26:51 PM
My guess would be training with Reece and Bunch.  Good partners for him(that won't be competition)  Ohio RTC has a pretty good thing going.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: AKIN on June 09, 2011, 03:28:32 PM
Makes sense. Who are the coaches at the Ohio RTC?
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: nywrestler4life on June 09, 2011, 03:42:55 PM
Lou Roselli and I think Reece Humphries dad.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: mspart on June 09, 2011, 06:44:58 PM
This will be between Cejudo and Hazewinkel.  You heard it here first.  All others are also rans!!

I'm pulling for Sam!!

mspart
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: vaisforlovers on June 10, 2011, 09:09:10 AM
Lou Roselli and I think Reece Humphries dad.
Reece's father's name is Jim Humphrey.

I think Angel Escobedo will have something to say about that.  Also, Obe is no slouch and made the World Team for a reason. 

Henry will have his work cut out for him in my opinion.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: nywrestler4life on June 10, 2011, 02:48:56 PM
Thanks Va, I knew it was a J name.  55 kg and 84 kg are going to be the two best brackets imo
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: Rockhard on June 10, 2011, 10:10:00 PM
No Cejudo. Dang.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: fuhr on June 10, 2011, 10:22:08 PM
No Cejudo. Dang.

Huh.... someone predicted this I just can't remember whooooooo......  No Nickerson either.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: nywrestler4life on June 10, 2011, 11:53:53 PM
Nickerson missed weight because he was sick or something and couldn't train down to it.  I think Fretwell has been hinting that Cejudo wouldn't wrestle here.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: Drooke on June 11, 2011, 12:02:41 AM
wonder what coca cola is thinking?
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: vaisforlovers on June 11, 2011, 11:01:14 AM
nm
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: Rockhard on June 11, 2011, 02:47:18 PM
Shame those two didn't make it. Atleast Cael did.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: Spladlemaster on June 11, 2011, 03:45:05 PM
Nick Simmons is in the finals!
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: Rockhard on June 11, 2011, 10:19:36 PM
Simmons is the champ.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: tx90 on June 12, 2011, 01:23:03 AM
Don't see Simmons having much of a shot here, just my opinion.

seems to be a handfull of guys that could win on any given day
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: AKIN on June 12, 2011, 03:35:33 PM
Simmons wrestled well yesterday. And if you step into his little funk front head/roll move, you are in trouble. Not sure the top level international guys will get caught in it many times. I really feel bad for Sam, he is really snakebit when it comes to the big matches. His wife was really taking the loss hard. She was still crying at the end of the 120kg match.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: vaisforlovers on June 12, 2011, 09:51:27 PM
Top level guys are just going to get on his legs.  His stance is lacking.  He's got a lot of weapons but a quick scout job and I think he'll be neutralized. 
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: ViseGrip on June 12, 2011, 11:59:22 PM
Simmons wrestled well yesterday. And if you step into his little funk front head/roll move, you are in trouble. Not sure the top level international guys will get caught in it many times. I really feel bad for Sam, he is really snakebit when it comes to the big matches. His wife was really taking the loss hard. She was still crying at the end of the 120kg match.

IMHO... Sammy lost that match mentally. I hate to say that, 'cause I think the world of the kid...but he just folded.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: AKIN on June 13, 2011, 12:13:29 AM
Unfortunately, I agree. I did enjoy Teyon throwing Metcalf around like a rag doll on those last guts. Wonder how bad his ribs were hurting at that point?
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: vaisforlovers on June 13, 2011, 08:47:16 AM
He was hurting pretty bad from a previous turn by Teyon.  I think those last guts really did a number on him.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: nywrestler4life on June 13, 2011, 11:42:52 AM
I think this is the first time I can remember that Metcalf has been injured.  His health has been amazing all through HS and college.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: ViseGrip on June 13, 2011, 01:21:52 PM
Unfortunately, I agree. I did enjoy Teyon throwing Metcalf around like a rag doll on those last guts. Wonder how bad his ribs were hurting at that point?

Actually if you were close to the mat you could hear Teyon whispering in his ear as he was rolling him around like an oblong marble... "If you f**k with my victory flip, you'll just get more of this."
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: AKIN on June 13, 2011, 02:21:36 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: ViseGrip on June 13, 2011, 03:47:25 PM
;D

You heard it too huh?
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: AKIN on June 13, 2011, 03:52:08 PM
So that's the second time I have seen Metcalf break mentally. And he was broken at the end of that match.
Title: Re: WTT; 55kg
Post by: ViseGrip on June 13, 2011, 04:04:04 PM
So that's the second time I have seen Metcalf break mentally. And he was broken at the end of that match.

No matter how hard he works.... there's one thing Metcalf cannot change.... he's too slow to compete at this level.