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Title: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Brew on September 03, 2013, 12:57:31 AM
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Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Intensity guru on September 03, 2013, 07:25:04 AM
No. For the love of god man stop with the wars.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: brycemus on September 03, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
all out military or just drop some bombs from 10,000 ft up?  I don't really want boots on the ground
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: a guest on September 03, 2013, 02:34:50 PM
Agree with Bryce.  More information is needed.

My gut is saying "no"

No soldiers on the ground.

If we use airstrikes, how can we be sure to limit the casualties?  I am sure there will be innocent people who live nearby any chemical plant or storing facility.  If a storage facility for chemical weapons is bombed, how do we contain the smoke so others don't get injured?

Jordan and Turkey have taken on many refugees during the past two year civil war.  Can we support them more in their hospitality?
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ViseGrip on September 03, 2013, 03:04:31 PM
Will anyone say yes?
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: AKIN on September 03, 2013, 04:04:28 PM
Nope
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Cougar1 on September 03, 2013, 04:10:36 PM
Even if you were an advocate of a "just" war there would be no sense to this. On one side you have a cruel dictator and on the other Al Qaeda. It's a lose/lose proposition.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ViseGrip on September 03, 2013, 04:57:11 PM
Id honestly like to hear the pro side of the debate from the yes voter, not really to debate but just to hear their viewpoint.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: a guest on September 03, 2013, 05:14:16 PM
Id honestly like to hear the pro side of the debate from the yes voter, not really to debate but just to hear their viewpoint.

How about-

It is against international law (and a war crime) to use chemical weapons.  The commander in chief has repeatedly stated that using chemical weapons would lead to consequences. 

If the US does not act against the regime in Syria, what will deter another despot from doing the same  (to their own people or against people in another country)?
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Intensity guru on September 03, 2013, 09:01:12 PM
Id honestly like to hear the pro side of the debate from the yes voter, not really to debate but just to hear their viewpoint.

How about-

It is against international law (and a war crime) to use chemical weapons.  The commander in chief has repeatedly stated that using chemical weapons would lead to consequences. 

If the US does not act against the regime in Syria, what will deter another despot from doing the same  (to their own people or against people in another country)?
The government has no right to take our money and use it in an attempt to deter evil on a global scale in perpetuity. It's a ridiculous notion.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ViseGrip on September 03, 2013, 09:14:27 PM
Id honestly like to hear the pro side of the debate from the yes voter, not really to debate but just to hear their viewpoint.

How about-

It is against international law (and a war crime) to use chemical weapons.  The commander in chief has repeatedly stated that using chemical weapons would lead to consequences. 

If the US does not act against the regime in Syria, what will deter another despot from doing the same  (to their own people or against people in another country)?
The government has no right to take our money and use it in an attempt to deter evil on a global scale in perpetuity. It's a ridiculous notion.

Its not a ridiculous notion to say that there are some acts that the US is not going to let go unpunished. For instance a nuclear strike. Do we really want to set the precedent that someone can go nuke a neighbor or one of our allies without fear of retaliation from the US? That is a very dangerous policy.

Now do gas attacks in one nation between two bad actors rise to that level of national resolve and emergency for the US at this time? Given who they are and what our financial situation is I dont think so in this case.... but it is NOT a ridiculous notion.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ctc on September 03, 2013, 09:23:50 PM
Let's give bad guys #2 weapons to kill bad guys #1.  Later, bad guys #2 can be green and recycle those weapons against bad guys #3 - the USA.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Brew on September 03, 2013, 11:58:37 PM
I think we should stop being a sheriff to the world and take a step back as a special deputy.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Intensity guru on September 04, 2013, 01:19:16 AM
Id honestly like to hear the pro side of the debate from the yes voter, not really to debate but just to hear their viewpoint.

How about-

It is against international law (and a war crime) to use chemical weapons.  The commander in chief has repeatedly stated that using chemical weapons would lead to consequences. 

If the US does not act against the regime in Syria, what will deter another despot from doing the same  (to their own people or against people in another country)?
The government has no right to take our money and use it in an attempt to deter evil on a global scale in perpetuity. It's a ridiculous notion.

Its not a ridiculous notion to say that there are some acts that the US is not going to let go unpunished. For instance a nuclear strike. Do we really want to set the precedent that someone can go nuke a neighbor or one of our allies without fear of retaliation from the US? That is a very dangerous policy.

Now do gas attacks in one nation between two bad actors rise to that level of national resolve and emergency for the US at this time? Given who they are and what our financial situation is I dont think so in this case.... but it is NOT a ridiculous notion.
We've been attacking countries and destroying lives and cultures for decades. It's not a secret that we will attack anyone. Yet, evil persists doesn't it? Perhaps it's because everyone else recognizes how ridiculous that notion is.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Cougar1 on September 04, 2013, 01:19:35 AM
Id honestly like to hear the pro side of the debate from the yes voter, not really to debate but just to hear their viewpoint.

How about-

It is against international law (and a war crime) to use chemical weapons
.  The commander in chief has repeatedly stated that using chemical weapons would lead to consequences. 

If the US does not act against the regime in Syria, what will deter another despot from doing the same  (to their own people or against people in another country)?

And yet the UN says it would be wrong for the US to attack. Go figure.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 04, 2013, 10:36:04 AM
Id honestly like to hear the pro side of the debate from the yes voter, not really to debate but just to hear their viewpoint.

1.  Syria has WMDs and links to Al Qaeda

2.  Syria has used the WMDs on their own people

3. This is part of the war on terrorism.  After all, Al Qaeda is there.

4.  Iran is Sponsoring Terrorism in Syria

5.  A chance at nation building with our (lost) allies.  France has already stated they they are on board, and given how they ran Al Qaeda out of Mali recently, with boots on the ground, we shouldn't scoff too much at how much help they could be.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: AKIN on September 04, 2013, 11:34:43 AM
I think we should stop being a sheriff to the world and take a step back as a special deputy.

Gagreed!! If they want to kill each other, let them kill each other. Why does our government feel the need to stop them?
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Cougar1 on September 04, 2013, 02:48:37 PM
I think we should stop being a sheriff to the world and take a step back as a special deputy.

Gagreed!! If they want to kill each other, let them kill each other. Why does our government feel the need to stop them?

Precisely. If International Law has been violated let the international community deal with it. Nobody else seems to be interested in stepping up to the plate.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 04, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
I think we should stop being a sheriff to the world and take a step back as a special deputy.

Gagreed!! If they want to kill each other, let them kill each other. Why does our government feel the need to stop them?

Precisely. If International Law has been violated let the international community deal with it. Nobody else seems to be interested in stepping up to the plate.

Why did you feel otherwise during the years 2001-2008?  I find that curious.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: a guest on September 04, 2013, 05:01:17 PM
Id honestly like to hear the pro side of the debate from the yes voter, not really to debate but just to hear their viewpoint.

1.  Syria has WMDs and links to Al Qaeda

2.  Syria has used the WMDs on their own people

3. This is part of the war on terrorism.  After all, Al Qaeda is there.

4.  Iran is Sponsoring Terrorism in Syria

5.  A chance at nation building with our (lost) allies.  France has already stated they they are on board, and given how they ran Al Qaeda out of Mali recently, with boots on the ground, we shouldn't scoff too much at how much help they could be.

1. Who in Syria has links to AQ? The regime in charge OR one of he many factions fighting the regime?

2. Who in Syria has done that?  President Assad? A rouge general? A faction within those fighting Assad?

3. So, who are we going to attack with the missiles?  Have we pin pointed which factions are AQ and which are not? Plus, I thought were going forward because we thought Assad launched the chemical attack, not AQ.

4. I thought Irn was backing Assad.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ViseGrip on September 04, 2013, 05:07:08 PM
Id honestly like to hear the pro side of the debate from the yes voter, not really to debate but just to hear their viewpoint.

How about-

It is against international law (and a war crime) to use chemical weapons.  The commander in chief has repeatedly stated that using chemical weapons would lead to consequences. 

If the US does not act against the regime in Syria, what will deter another despot from doing the same  (to their own people or against people in another country)?
The government has no right to take our money and use it in an attempt to deter evil on a global scale in perpetuity. It's a ridiculous notion.

Its not a ridiculous notion to say that there are some acts that the US is not going to let go unpunished. For instance a nuclear strike. Do we really want to set the precedent that someone can go nuke a neighbor or one of our allies without fear of retaliation from the US? That is a very dangerous policy.

Now do gas attacks in one nation between two bad actors rise to that level of national resolve and emergency for the US at this time? Given who they are and what our financial situation is I dont think so in this case.... but it is NOT a ridiculous notion.
We've been attacking countries and destroying lives and cultures for decades. It's not a secret that we will attack anyone. Yet, evil persists doesn't it? Perhaps it's because everyone else recognizes how ridiculous that notion is.

They may not say it publically, but let there be no doubt, privately the vast majority of civilized nations thank whatever God they worship that the US does step in now and then. Just ask South Korea, Kuwait, Western Europe, and probably dozens of other nations we have saved from attacking neighbors over the last 100 years.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 04, 2013, 05:23:04 PM
Id honestly like to hear the pro side of the debate from the yes voter, not really to debate but just to hear their viewpoint.

1.  Syria has WMDs and links to Al Qaeda

2.  Syria has used the WMDs on their own people

3. This is part of the war on terrorism.  After all, Al Qaeda is there.

4.  Iran is Sponsoring Terrorism in Syria

5.  A chance at nation building with our (lost) allies.  France has already stated they they are on board, and given how they ran Al Qaeda out of Mali recently, with boots on the ground, we shouldn't scoff too much at how much help they could be.

1. Who in Syria has links to AQ? The regime in charge OR one of he many factions fighting the regime?

2. Who in Syria has done that?  President Assad? A rouge general? A faction within those fighting Assad?

3. So, who are we going to attack with the missiles?  Have we pin pointed which factions are AQ and which are not? Plus, I thought were going forward because we thought Assad launched the chemical attack, not AQ.

4. I thought Irn was backing Assad.

1.  The same links to AQ that Iraq had in 2001, with one difference:  AQ is KNOWN to be in Syria.

2.  They've been used, haven't they?  Were we as certain who used them in Iraq in 2001?

3.  Did we state who we were going to attack and where in 2001?  Assad, AQ, doesn't matter:  all part of the war on terrorism, which needs no justification, explanation, or end game stated.

4.  Yes, Iran is backing terrorism, just as Saddam Hussein was.

So, why did you support the war in Iraq, when I just stated the EXACT same reasons that we invaded Iraq?
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: fuhr on September 04, 2013, 09:54:12 PM
No. For the love of god man stop with the wars.


This.  100% this.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 04, 2013, 10:22:54 PM
Wow!  What changed in January of 2009? 

Prior to that time, the more the wars, the merrier and prouder that we are-regardless of cost-and even Sean McVeigh Hannity and Liz Cheney, until our President Obama stated the he wanted to strike Syria, were all gung ho and critical of our President for NOT attacking Syria.

What changed with them too? 
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: SVV on September 04, 2013, 10:33:21 PM
No. For the love of god man stop with the wars.


This.  100% this.

Make that three.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 04, 2013, 10:38:52 PM
Looks like some folks seem to have forgotten 2001-2008.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6yLQRF-cEU
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 04, 2013, 10:40:01 PM
Keep in mind that it's our military that gives you the "right" to embolden our enemies and undermine our troops, folks.  ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 04, 2013, 10:44:13 PM
Let's let ol' glory fly, eh,folks?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2jf7k4mjIH8/TMhP8CZbWpI/AAAAAAAACUM/YBy8Dfp-ZQc/s400/USA+Flag+in+Bad+Cover.jpg)
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Brew on September 04, 2013, 11:01:11 PM
I say if we start another war lets take out canada...lots of natural resources up there.  Im sick of their secure borders and Frenchie talk...and the fact thet can vacation in Cuba.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: fuhr on September 04, 2013, 11:11:10 PM
I say if we start another war lets take out canada...lots of natural resources up there.  Im sick of their secure borders and Frenchie talk...and the fact thet can vacation in Cuba.


So long as we get Poutine out of the deal.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: SVV on September 04, 2013, 11:20:52 PM
I say if we start another war lets take out canada...lots of natural resources up there.  Im sick of their secure borders and Frenchie talk...and the fact thet can vacation in Cuba.


So long as we get Poutine out of the deal.

I support this.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Ray Brinzer on September 04, 2013, 11:23:53 PM
I say if we start another war lets take out canada...lots of natural resources up there.  Im sick of their secure borders and Frenchie talk...and the fact thet can vacation in Cuba.

And we owe 'em a licking from 1812.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: mspart on September 05, 2013, 01:35:48 AM
So what is the proof that Assad did this?  How do we know this happened by Assad and not the rebels or Al-keda in a setup?

That is what I would like to know.  Them saying we are 90% sure it was Assad is not good enough. 

mspart
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Cougar1 on September 05, 2013, 09:02:03 AM
So what is the proof that Assad did this?  How do we know this happened by Assad and not the rebels or Al-keda in a setup?

That is what I would like to know.  Them saying we are 90% sure it was Assad is not good enough. 

mspart

I have a nagging question. If Assad has chemical weapons where did they come from?
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 10:52:58 AM
So what is the proof that Assad did this?  How do we know this happened by Assad and not the rebels or Al-keda in a setup?

That is what I would like to know.  Them saying we are 90% sure it was Assad is not good enough. 

mspart

The same way that we "knew" that Iraq had WMDs and that Saddam Hussein gassed his people years prior.

Those were two BIG "justifications" for the Iraq war.  If it worked then, it ought to work now, right?
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: fuhr on September 05, 2013, 11:05:36 AM
So what is the proof that Assad did this?  How do we know this happened by Assad and not the rebels or Al-keda in a setup?

That is what I would like to know.  Them saying we are 90% sure it was Assad is not good enough. 

mspart


Even if you knew 100% he did it, is it an issue the U.S. needs to solve?  Should this not be an international issue?
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: a guest on September 05, 2013, 11:10:30 AM
I say if we start another war lets take out canada...lots of natural resources up there.  Im sick of their secure borders and Frenchie talk...and the fact thet can vacation in Cuba.

What do you mean "secure borders"?

I've got Canadian Goose poop all over my yard!
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 11:13:14 AM
So what is the proof that Assad did this?  How do we know this happened by Assad and not the rebels or Al-keda in a setup?

That is what I would like to know.  Them saying we are 90% sure it was Assad is not good enough. 

mspart


Even if you knew 100% he did it, is it an issue the U.S. needs to solve?  Should this not be an international issue?

To heck with the UN!  We need to go at it alone, and we're not accountable to THEM!  This is the USA!   >:(
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: a guest on September 05, 2013, 11:13:42 AM

So, why did you support the war in Iraq?

Huh?
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: mspart on September 05, 2013, 11:35:58 AM

So, why did you support the war in Iraq?

Huh?

Exactly!  But Mom!!!!!!!

mspart
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: Brew on September 05, 2013, 12:39:31 PM
I say if we start another war lets take out canada...lots of natural resources up there.  Im sick of their secure borders and Frenchie talk...and the fact thet can vacation in Cuba.

What do you mean "secure borders"?

I've got Canadian Goose poop all over my yard!

That is what should precipitate our strike to the north....they are clearly using biological warfare on us. I dont know about you but that is certainly casting the first stone in my opinion.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 01:17:15 PM

So, why did you support the war in Iraq?

Huh?

 I literally took the "justifications" for that war and inserted "Syria" in place of the other names.  So, assuming that you did support the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, then you couldn't possibly support those wars, based on the "justifications," while not supporting the effort in Syria. 

The perfect proof is to look at rank and file (non-politicians) democrats.  You have to look LONG AND HARD to find one who supported those wars, as well as the effort in Syria.  Perfect consistency, based on the "justifications."
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 01:18:11 PM

So, why did you support the war in Iraq?

Huh?

Exactly!  But Mom!!!!!!!

mspart

OK, then explain your inconsistency since January of 2009.

But MOM!!!!!
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: a guest on September 05, 2013, 02:01:18 PM

So, why did you support the war in Iraq?

Huh?

 I literally took the "justifications" for that war and inserted "Syria" in place of the other names.  So, assuming that you

I stopped reading after that part.

Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 02:03:57 PM

So, why did you support the war in Iraq?

Huh?

 I literally took the "justifications" for that war and inserted "Syria" in place of the other names.  So, assuming that you

I stopped reading after that part.

I'll bet that you did.  Hit a nerve, eh?

At least democrats have been consistent regarding this since 2001.    ;)
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ViseGrip on September 05, 2013, 02:07:48 PM
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Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 02:17:10 PM
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All well and good, but we don't have a consistency problem, do we?  Aside from a handful-if even-of democrats in Congress who supports going into Syria, good luck finding any others.

Now, compare that to country clubbers during the years 2001-2008 with today.  TOTAL flip flop.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: a guest on September 05, 2013, 02:22:09 PM

So, why did you support the war in Iraq?

Huh?

 I literally took the "justifications" for that war and inserted "Syria" in place of the other names.  So, assuming that you

I stopped reading after that part.

I'll bet that you did.  Hit a nerve, eh?

At least democrats have been consistent regarding this since 2001.    ;)

Has't your mom ever told you "to assume makes an ass out of you and me"

Please try not to assume you know my opinions of matters now, let alone ten years ago. There is a good chance you may be wrong.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 02:37:16 PM

So, why did you support the war in Iraq?

Huh?

 I literally took the "justifications" for that war and inserted "Syria" in place of the other names.  So, assuming that you

I stopped reading after that part.

I'll bet that you did.  Hit a nerve, eh?

At least democrats have been consistent regarding this since 2001.    ;)

Has't your mom ever told you "to assume makes an ass out of you and me"

Please try not to assume you know my opinions of matters now, let alone ten years ago. There is a good chance you may be wrong.

Well, that sounds like an easy fix to me then!  Simply state, "no, you're wrong, I didn't support the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, nor do I support this one" (I know of one person on here who can EASILY say that).  If that can't be done, then I'm pretty sure that I'm assuming nothing.  ;)
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: AKIN on September 05, 2013, 03:20:47 PM
No, you're wrong, I didn't support the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, nor do I support this one.

IF CRAZY ASS FOREIGNERS WANT TO WIPE THEMSELVES OUT, SO BE IT. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME. (CLEAR ENOUGH?)
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 03:34:34 PM
No, you're wrong, I didn't support the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, nor do I support this one.

IF CRAZY ASS FOREIGNERS WANT TO WIPE THEMSELVES OUT, SO BE IT. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME. (CLEAR ENOUGH?)

I don't buy it, being that you're the only country clubber who didn't support the Afghan and Iraq wars, but, fair enough.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: AKIN on September 05, 2013, 03:59:01 PM
And I don't buy that you are not a card carrying member of NAMBLA. But I guess it's ok for me to assume something about you, even though I really don't know anything about you.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 04:06:23 PM
And I don't buy that you are not a card carrying member of NAMBLA. But I guess it's ok for me to assume something about you, even though I really don't know anything about you.

Two straight days having NAMBLA on your mind, eh?

OK... ???
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: AKIN on September 05, 2013, 04:09:19 PM
Nice deflection. Dikembe has nothing on you.
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 04:14:17 PM
Nice deflection. Dikembe has nothing on you.

Deflection, or a disturbing but true observation?   :-\
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 05, 2013, 04:18:18 PM
On the lighter side, I actually had to do a Bing search for Dikembe to see what that referred to.

Glad to see that my ban on the major pro sports is paying off for me!   ;)
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ViseGrip on September 06, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
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Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: mspart on September 06, 2013, 11:54:06 AM
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Yes, but it was Japan attacking the US.  In what we are contemplating we are going to strike Syria and Iran is doing the saber rattling.  That is a different thing altogether. 

mspart
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ViseGrip on September 06, 2013, 12:02:18 PM
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Yes, but it was Japan attacking the US.  In what we are contemplating we are going to strike Syria and Iran is doing the saber rattling.  That is a different thing altogether. 

mspart

It wasnt a commentary so much about Syria and Iran as it was Obama and Kerry' ridiculousness contention that they werent starting a war because there would be "no boots on the ground".
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ban basketball on September 06, 2013, 02:50:50 PM
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Yes, but it was Japan attacking the US.  In what we are contemplating we are going to strike Syria and Iran is doing the saber rattling.  That is a different thing altogether. 

mspart

It wasnt a commentary so much about Syria and Iran as it was Obama and Kerry' ridiculousness contention that they werent starting a war because there would be "no boots on the ground".

Reads to me like you're rooting for Syria.

So much for the old slogan during the years 2001-2008, "you're either with us, or you're with the terrorists."
Title: Re: should the u.s. strike syria?
Post by: ocianain on September 10, 2013, 09:23:47 PM
So, almost 82 percent of the type "A" combat athletes who took this poll are against the war....Yeats is a prophet and you guys Rock!