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Wrestling => College => Topic started by: ViseGrip on January 20, 2009, 01:24:31 PM

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Post by: ViseGrip on January 20, 2009, 01:24:31 PM
My list is as follows

1. Kenny Monday
Pros: Has ALL the bonafides, has worked wonders in TX. Excellent OK roots
Cons: Might not have degree. Might HATE Sooners

2. Rob Koll
Pros: Has good college career, has done very well at Cornell, dad was coach
Cons: No local connections, Not a stellar FS career

3. Mark Branch
Pros: Excellent OK roots, Great assistant under Smith, excellent college career, great teacher
Cons: Virtually no FS career, very little head coach experiance

4. Mark Neumann
Pros: Established head coach credentials, Ex-Sooner asst, decent OK connections
Cons: May like it where he's at better

5. Rob Waller
Pros: De facto coach today, son of a coach, good OK connections
Cons: Virtually no FS cred. Not a particularly stellar college career

6. Terry Brands
Pros: Iowa intensity, good career in college & FS
Cons: Bad temperment for head coach, No OK connections (except John Smith lol)

7. Brian Smith
Pros: Smilar to newman but w/no OK connections, Can hire fuzzyhead
Cons: Same as Newman

8. Tom Borelli
Pros: Same as Smith & Newman but with less talent & no fuzzyhead
Cons: Same as Newman & Smith

Others worth looking at? (besides Metcalf)
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Post by: Viratas on January 20, 2009, 01:28:28 PM
Some young guys maybe. Hartung should be on a radar... Marty Morgan...

What about Bono leaving UTC

I would Hire Johnny Johnson.. Has OK ties, was a great assistant at MN and has done good with Stevens point and the WI Jr. Program..

Also, consider Kevin Black.
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Post by: brycemus on January 20, 2009, 02:33:31 PM
I don't think that Bono would be a good fit ... heck he ran UTC down in less time than it took Brands to build VaTech up.
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Post by: AKIN on January 20, 2009, 03:07:10 PM
You may want to move TB up on your list, at least that's the rumor down here.
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Post by: ViseGrip on January 20, 2009, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: "AKIN"
You may want to move TB up on your list, at least that's the rumor down here.
He's definately an overachiever as a coach.

I'd like to see someone with a better FS background and someone that local coaches and wrestlers are familiar with.

I think that for everything that Borelli brings to the table, Koll brings more.
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Post by: ViseGrip on January 20, 2009, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: "Viratas"
Some young guys maybe. Hartung should be on a radar... Marty Morgan...

What about Bono leaving UTC

I would Hire Johnny Johnson.. Has OK ties, was a great assistant at MN and has done good with Stevens point and the WI Jr. Program..

Also, consider Kevin Black.
What DID he do at WSP?
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Post by: ViseGrip on January 20, 2009, 03:49:58 PM
There's one guy out there that OUGHT to be on this list, but the perception is he just cant get along, and thats Mark Schultz. Its a pity too, because it looks like he did a decent job at BYU. His back maybe just too damaged to be an effective coach as well.
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Post by: Viratas on January 20, 2009, 04:51:51 PM
Also, what about Troy Steiner?
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Post by: Cougar1 on January 20, 2009, 07:39:21 PM
What's Hartung up to in Minny??
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Post by: Viratas on January 20, 2009, 07:43:33 PM
Not much really he should be coaching somewhere
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Post by: ViseGrip on January 20, 2009, 11:44:24 PM
Quote from: "Viratas"
Also, what about Troy Steiner?
Troy Steiner
Pros: Iowa system, good college experiance
Cons: Not much FS cred, no head coaching experiance, no OK ties

Another Zalesky?

Speaking of Zalesky....

Andre Metzger
Pros: Excellent collge career, very good FS credentials. Ex-Sooner, still resident
Cons: No real coaching coaching experiance, questionable temprement
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Post by: Cougar1 on January 21, 2009, 07:43:14 AM
Quote from: "Viratas"
Not much really he should be coaching somewhere
I thought he went back to Minny for financial reasons/business opportunity.

Troy would be very good but I'd like to see him stay with Z for a bit longer and get that program to the top.
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Post by: tigerfan on January 22, 2009, 08:29:01 AM
What about Shawn Charles?  You know he's looking for a HC position somewhere.
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Post by: Viratas on January 22, 2009, 08:45:26 AM
Tiger thats a good point and I think he would be a very good option.
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Post by: acguns on January 26, 2009, 10:40:41 PM
Ray Brinzer - OK, IA and PA ties, Greco guy and maybe crazy enough to do it.
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Post by: Viratas on January 27, 2009, 06:36:14 AM
Ray Ray, is my personal all time Favorite character
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Post by: Cougar1 on January 27, 2009, 07:07:48 AM
And we're still waiting for you to tell us some Ray stories.
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Post by: Viratas on January 27, 2009, 07:13:06 AM
Sorry I will today
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Post by: horatio on January 27, 2009, 07:49:43 AM
interesting call w/ Kevin Black V.  he's got his school up in River Falls now and besides that, i'd think he needs some years as a bona fide assistant.  he might've done it for a couple years at UW, but not many.  nice to see him stick around the sport in any capacity though, he has a lot to offer.  


good list overall vise-grip.  i get so sick of seeing schools accept mediocrity (or worse, hello michigan state) year after year, especially when that school has as much tradition as OU.
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Post by: Cougar1 on January 27, 2009, 12:10:45 PM
Quote from: "Viratas"
Sorry I will today
Just keeping you honest. I love to hear stories about Ray. I wonder if he still has Gumby for a companion?
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Post by: Viratas on January 27, 2009, 12:13:39 PM
I am sure he is around..
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Post by: Kingk0ng on February 02, 2009, 06:11:01 PM
Don't think its gonna happen VG, as much as I think a change is needed you have to admit the Sooners are wrestling a helluva lot better than they did last year
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Post by: ViseGrip on February 02, 2009, 06:48:54 PM
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Don't think its gonna happen VG, as much as I think a change is needed you have to admit the Sooners are wrestling a helluva lot better than they did last year
We'll STILL finish last in the Big 5
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Post by: bigokieguy on February 02, 2009, 10:40:49 PM
Branch would be a great coach but he's at Wyoming. Spates actually hasn't done that bad a job.
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Post by: ViseGrip on February 02, 2009, 11:12:43 PM
Quote from: "bigokieguy"
Branch would be a great coach but he's at Wyoming. Spates actually hasn't done that bad a job.
It'll be a tight fit between us and OSU for last place.... and I dont think we'll win.
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Post by: bigokieguy on February 02, 2009, 11:17:32 PM
Quote from: "ViseGrip"
Quote from: "bigokieguy"
Branch would be a great coach but he's at Wyoming. Spates actually hasn't done that bad a job.
It'll be a tight fit between us and OSU for last place.... and I dont think we'll win.
Both Oklahoma schools expect a lot of success. As I said before I go to OU duals at times. Norman's closer to my home than Stillwater.
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Post by: ViseGrip on February 02, 2009, 11:39:57 PM
I think OSU is gonna win Bedlam II.
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Post by: drmuscle on February 02, 2009, 11:49:52 PM
Who is a viable head coaching option?
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Post by: ViseGrip on February 03, 2009, 12:01:58 AM
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Who is a viable head coaching option?
I posited several options on the 1st page.
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Post by: nywrestler4life on February 03, 2009, 03:47:42 PM
Quote from: "ViseGrip"
Quote from: "drmuscle"
Who is a viable head coaching option?
I posited several options on the 1st page.
One More I like:

Erick Guerrero:
Pros: Stellar college Career, Great Freestyle Career nationally good internationally, Coached under John Smith, Great OK connections
Cons: May not like OU, has to coach against his mentor in the biggest match of the year