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Wrestling => High School & Lower => Topic started by: Jtm on February 08, 2018, 04:49:26 PM

Title: Not so Random
Post by: Jtm on February 08, 2018, 04:49:26 PM
What the chance that Rule 1.2.2 is being followed? As close as you can get to zero.


Here's the data. (https://www.levelchanger.com/blog/2018/2/8/amazon-must-be-out-of-14-sided-die)





Title: Re: Not so Random
Post by: RYou on February 10, 2018, 08:40:15 AM
Starting meets at 125 versus the schools and the news reporting scores starting at 125 skew the results.

Fundamentally, who cares ?  Everyone wrestles.
Title: Re: Not so Random
Post by: SingletSlinger on February 10, 2018, 10:26:04 PM
#FakeNews
Title: Re: Not so Random
Post by: Jtm on February 13, 2018, 10:21:11 PM
Starting meets at 125 versus the schools and the news reporting scores starting at 125 skew the results.

Fundamentally, who cares ?  Everyone wrestles.


Exactly. Why have a rule that isn't followed or enforced?  An opportunity to shorten and simplify the rule book, if only in a small way.
Title: Re: Not so Random
Post by: ctc on February 13, 2018, 11:00:40 PM
Starting meets at 125 versus the schools and the news reporting scores starting at 125 skew the results.

Fundamentally, who cares ?  Everyone wrestles.


Exactly. Why have a rule that isn't followed or enforced?  An opportunity to shorten and simplify the rule book, if only in a small way.
The rule should be followed sim ply because it is a rule.  Refs should never pick and choose what rules they want to follow and what rules they want to ignore.  That prerogative seems to be solely in the hands of POTUS.
Title: Re: Not so Random
Post by: SingletSlinger on February 13, 2018, 11:13:44 PM
I would guess your data is skewed by people who do their stats after the event is over and go with the lowest weight.

Either that or your users are from a state that doesn't care about the rules.
Title: Re: Not so Random
Post by: Jtm on February 13, 2018, 11:50:58 PM
Starting meets at 125 versus the schools and the news reporting scores starting at 125 skew the results.

Fundamentally, who cares ?  Everyone wrestles.


Exactly. Why have a rule that isn't followed or enforced?  An opportunity to shorten and simplify the rule book, if only in a small way.
The rule should be followed sim ply because it is a rule.  Refs should never pick and choose what rules they want to follow and what rules they want to ignore.  That prerogative seems to be solely in the hands of POTUS.


That's a good point as well.  Not following a rule, however minor (as might be the case here), can be a slippery slope.  On one hand, who cares? On the other, rules are there to be enforced.


Surprisingly, the referee isn't required to be present at an NFHS-compliant random draw.  It can be an "authorized person", a term left undefined in the NFHS rules.
Title: Re: Not so Random
Post by: SetonHallPirate on February 15, 2018, 11:36:47 AM
Starting meets at 125 versus the schools and the news reporting scores starting at 125 skew the results.

Fundamentally, who cares ?  Everyone wrestles.


Exactly. Why have a rule that isn't followed or enforced?  An opportunity to shorten and simplify the rule book, if only in a small way.
The rule should be followed sim ply because it is a rule.  Refs should never pick and choose what rules they want to follow and what rules they want to ignore.  That prerogative seems to be solely in the hands of POTUS.


That's a good point as well.  Not following a rule, however minor (as might be the case here), can be a slippery slope.  On one hand, who cares? On the other, rules are there to be enforced.


Surprisingly, the referee isn't required to be present at an NFHS-compliant random draw.  It can be an "authorized person", a term left undefined in the NFHS rules.
Is there a specified protocol for the random draw in HS? I know there isn't in college.
Title: Re: Not so Random
Post by: Jtm on February 15, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
The only difference is that the random draw is mandatory in high school, optional in college. No mention of how the random draw is conducted.
Title: Re: Not so Random
Post by: ctc on February 15, 2018, 01:24:15 PM
The only difference is that the random draw is mandatory in high school, optional in college. No mention of how the random draw is conducted.
I always do it just before weigh ins and with the head coach of home team.