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Wrestling => College => Topic started by: Jtm on April 09, 2018, 01:28:53 AM

Title: Cost of a Top Twenty Division I finish
Post by: Jtm on April 09, 2018, 01:28:53 AM

One way to look at cost v. performance in Division I wrestling (https://www.levelchanger.com/blog/2018/4/7/ncaad1cost).





Title: Re: Cost of a Top Twenty Division I finish
Post by: ViseGrip on April 12, 2018, 11:33:30 AM
I'd hate to even see the numbers on Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Cost of a Top Twenty Division I finish
Post by: pinnum on April 23, 2018, 09:57:31 AM
You can't use a sampling of only top-20 teams and establish trends or determine over/under performers.

You need to look at all programs or at least a random sampling of all programs.  But even then it will be hard to compare since wrestling teams scores compound so you don't get a true linear representation of performance.
Title: Re: Cost of a Top Twenty Division I finish
Post by: pinnum on April 23, 2018, 10:02:15 AM
Additionally, one year is a poor metric for looking at performance per dollar.
Title: Re: Cost of a Top Twenty Division I finish
Post by: Jtm on April 25, 2018, 12:38:42 AM


This analysis doesn't attempt to show a trend though such a project might be interesting.



What is meant by "wrestling teams scores compound so you don't get a true linear representation of performance?"


No doubt some sort of analysis over the entire population would be interesting, especially over time. Not a trivial undertaking as the outcome data isn't available in a suitable format. The NCAA should do a better job with creating helpful datasets.



You can't use a sampling of only top-20 teams and establish trends or determine over/under performers.

You need to look at all programs or at least a random sampling of all programs.  But even then it will be hard to compare since wrestling teams scores compound so you don't get a true linear representation of performance.
Title: Re: Cost of a Top Twenty Division I finish
Post by: Jtm on April 25, 2018, 12:40:24 AM

One year is inadequate for trending.  Year isn't a metric, but I understand your point and it is a good one.

Additionally, one year is a poor metric for looking at performance per dollar.
Title: Re: Cost of a Top Twenty Division I finish
Post by: Jtm on November 21, 2019, 11:26:03 PM
Cost of operating a college wrestling program updated with most recent (2017-18) data:


https://www.levelchanger.com/blog/2019/11/13/update-cost-of-college-wrestling-program (https://www.levelchanger.com/blog/2019/11/13/update-cost-of-college-wrestling-program)
Title: Re: Cost of a Top Twenty Division I finish
Post by: RYou on November 22, 2019, 06:28:48 AM
On a diet, not taking cookies.
Title: Re: Cost of a Top Twenty Division I finish
Post by: ViseGrip on November 22, 2019, 05:20:54 PM
Cost of operating a college wrestling program updated with most recent (2017-18) data:


https://www.levelchanger.com/blog/2019/11/13/update-cost-of-college-wrestling-program (https://www.levelchanger.com/blog/2019/11/13/update-cost-of-college-wrestling-program)


Oklahoma.... #4 in expenditures.

Definately getting the LEAST bang for our $buck! Again.
Title: Re: Cost of a Top Twenty Division I finish
Post by: mspart on November 27, 2019, 11:31:18 AM
Cost of operating a college wrestling program updated with most recent (2017-18) data:

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