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Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: Eye Pokes
« on: January 09, 2020, 04:20:34 PM »
I stop the match and ask the wrestler if he needs time.  I'll give him a little more latitude to shake it off before think about the injury time process.  I then tell both wrestlers to watch their setups to the head.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: Unlikely scenario, but could happen...
« on: January 09, 2020, 04:18:47 PM »
That is my point as well.  The time extension can only be granted after a medical professional determines that.  That is done by conducting an evaluation.  The referee's job is to stop the match and put the wrester(s) on some sort of clock (blood, injury or recovery).  The medical folks will may an assessment and determine if extra evaluation time is needed.

The NJ topic implies that the official can put the wrestler on the extra time and I argue, that is not the case.  I'm not talking about defaulting or anything else, just the fact that extra time needs to be based off a medical evaluation.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: Unlikely scenario, but could happen...
« on: January 06, 2020, 01:00:21 PM »
No because the 2nd wrestler has yet to be evaluated.  Each wrestler should be allowed 5 minutes for review is there is but one health care professional available.  The second 5 minute clock shouldn't start until the assessment of the first wrestler is complete.

PS the national rule states the referee can call for the health care review for cervical, head, neck injuries, not just recommend.

Just curious as to where the rules state the referee can call for a health care review?  My understanding if an injury occurs (regardless of the type), the official starts the injury time.  If the health care pro deems that they need more time to evaluate a head, spine or neck situation, they get the additional time but we don't recommend it.  Something during the initial evaluation of the wrestler by the trainer needs to prompt the need for additional time, not an official calling for something.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: Was this match called correctly?
« on: March 11, 2019, 01:11:27 PM »
The New York interpretation or appeal process has no bearing in this clip obviously, however, I believe most states will interpret the ultimate tiebreaker similarly.  I would say, some of the coaches, especially the maroon coaches, should be hit with unsportsmanlike conduct for being in the middle of the mat.

Typically yes, the opponent should face or be what you think is a considerable distance away.  However, in ultimate tiebreaker, the defensive wrestler has broken free and the offensive wrestler is clearly not riding him any longer.  The ultimate tiebreaker is controlled wrestling and the rules put them in a specific position.  The fact that the defensive wrestler breaks away is enough for me to show the controlled wrestling has ended.  Someone now has to win.

I'm going to award the escape as soon as he creates a little separation and stop the match. He doesn't always have to face him, just get a distance away.  That distance is my judgement.  In ultimate tiebreaker, getting separation like that is enough to satisfy me that the offensive wrestler is no longer riding his opponent.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: Hypothetical situation
« on: February 03, 2019, 10:34:16 PM »
Don’t forget that after the stalling penalty for two points, wrestler B would be given choice of position on the next restart.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: Cox vs Azerbaijan
« on: April 25, 2018, 10:45:32 AM »
Looked to me like Cox's momentum ended up being viewed as a complete push which they aren't going to call.  When you freeze the video, Cox initiated the scoring action with both of his feet out of bounds.

You have to use your judgement.  If the score is close and a wrestler immediately drops to an ankle he is now hanging on, not wrestling.  It is often better to stop the match sooner than later to warn or penalize.  That way the defensive wrestler has time to restart and try to escape.  By waiting and waiting to see if an escape occurs, more time is chewed.  In your scenario, 9 seconds went by before an escape.  If the escape did not occur and you decided to warn, you would be stopping the match with 5-6 seconds.  Not much opportunity for the defensive wrestler to do something after the restart.  You may think an escape is going to occur but sometimes it doesn't and there isn't much time on the clock.

I'm not a fan a warning or penalizing with little time in the third period when there have been no warnings up to that point.  Makes the ref look foolish, IMO and it is a waste of time.  In cases when the wrestler is just hanging (like this), stop it and warn him quickly.

There is no delayed stalling call.

Yes.  You won't be that popular with some team but you can do it.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: Gold Standard Officiating Examples
« on: February 26, 2018, 01:24:04 PM »
Best officials balance the letter of the rule with spirit of the rules.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: UTB question
« on: February 26, 2018, 01:23:32 PM »
Yes, the defensive wrestler could choose top, ride his opponent for one second and win.

See case book,  8.2.1 Situation F (k) on page 59.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: 2nd Overtime/ UTB situation
« on: February 22, 2018, 09:49:28 AM »
I may give it a second or two but in general, I'm going to stalemate a "hanging on" situation fairly quickly.  If you haven't hit anyone for stalling by this point, it is difficult to hit someone in the last 30 seconds.  Especially when the rule in Ultimate Tiebreaker does not require the offensive to work for a fall.  He just needs to ride.  However, there is a difference between riding and hanging on.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: Blair Ride
« on: December 30, 2017, 02:42:52 AM »
I'll look at the video but it would not be a technical violation.  It would be be either legal or illegal (I'm a stickler for proper terminology; can't be put on recovery time clock for a technical violation as an example).  A quick glance of it doesn't look like a key lock though.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Re: Hypothetical scenario....just curious
« on: December 11, 2017, 11:10:55 AM »
Answer B.  When the near fall situation concludes, if you have not awarded near fall yet, you would award it then.  If awarding the near fall created a technical fall, then there is no defensive fall.

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