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College / Is Rock still posting on here?
« on: November 10, 2016, 07:18:06 AM »
I just saw Mizzou had a commit from Lane Stigall out you're way, and wondered if you were familiar with him?

College / Mizzou 26 tOSU 17
« on: December 13, 2015, 10:17:15 AM »
Here you go, lkwdsteve.  Your very own thread.  Someone last night at the alumni social mentioned that Brian Smith has never lost to tOSU while at Mizzou.  I'll say this, I like Tom Ryan and the whole Buckeye program.  Always have.  I hope he continues the home/away series for years to come. 

College / Geo Martinez
« on: February 10, 2015, 02:20:41 PM »
Not sure who does TOM's rankings, but why the love affair with Geo Martinez.  According to, his results are:

1. Anthony Abidin (Nebraska) Maj Geo Martinez  12-4  0-1

2. Geo Martinez Maj Martin Ramirez (Adams State)  16-0  1-1

3. Geo Martinez Fall Anthony Munoz (New Mexico Highlands)  1:44  2-1

4. Geo Martinez Dec Gabe Grahek (Wisconsin)  10-4  3-1

5. Geo Martinez Fall Jacob Gerken (Colorado School of Mines)  1:17  4-1

6. Geo Martinez Dec Rylan Lubeck (Wisconsin)  8-1  5-1

7. Michael Ruiz (Great Falls) Dec Geo Martinez  12-10  5-2

8. Geo Martinez Fall Derek Malan (Utah Valley)  1:32  6-2

9. Geo Martinez Dec John Meeks (Iowa State)  9-5  7-2

10. Geo Martinez Fall Jamel Hudson (Hofstra)  5:09  8-2

11. Todd Preston (Harvard) Dec Geo Martinez  6-1  8-3

12. Geo Martinez Dec Ty Buckiso (The Citadel)  9-3  9-3

13. Geo Martinez Tech Dante Rodriguez (Iowa State)  5:37  10-3

14. Geo Martinez Dec Sam Speno (NC State)  10-6  11-3

15. Geo Martinez Dec Mitch Bengtson (North Dakota State)  4-3  12-3

16. Anthony Ashnault (Rutgers) Dec Geo Martinez  10-8  12-4

17. Geo Martinez Dec Mike Morales (West Virginia)  8-4  13-4

18. Geo Martinez Dec Devin Reynolds (Oregon State)  7-4  14-4

19. Geo Martinez Maj Tanner Hough (Duke)  10-2  15-4

20. Geo Martinez Maj Jason Estevez (Buffalo)  9-0  16-4

21. Geo Martinez Maj Anthony Abidin (Nebraska)  10-2  17-4

22. Geo Martinez Fall Zach Horan (Central Michigan)  1:41  18-4

23. Lavion Mayes (Missouri) Dec Geo Martinez  6-4  18-5

24. Geo Martinez Fall Ben Polkowske (Northern Colorado)  4:17  19-5

25. Geo Martinez Dec Matt Kraus (Arizona State)  5-3  20-5

26. Geo Martinez Tech Mason Pengilly (Stanford)  18-2  21-5

27. Geo Martinez Dec Colt Schilling (Cal Poly)  8-1  22-5

28. Geo Martinez Fall Timmy Box (CSU-Bakersfield)  1:25  23-5

29. Geo Martinez Dec Devin Reynolds (Oregon State)  13-7  24-5

Yet, inexplicably he's ranked ahead of Mayes, who's only loss is to Horan and who dominated Martinez head-to-head.  I'm just curious why TOM (and no other ranking service) has Martinez so highly ranked.

College / Minny vs. Mizzou
« on: February 03, 2015, 09:36:23 PM »
Assuming these two are seeded 2 and 3 at National Duals, any thoughts on this match-up?

125 - Waters TF Lizak.  Waters teched Boyle, and I don't think Lizak's better than Boyle.  Mizzou 5-0
133 - Dardanes mdec Synon.  Synon's really lanky, which might allow him to really frustrate Dardanes, but eventually the points will pile up.  Mizzou 5-4
141 - Mayes dec. Dardanes.  Toss-up, obviously, but I think this will be Mayes statement win.  Gonna be a great match!  Mizzou 8-4
149 - Houdashelt mdec Short.  I'd say tech, but Short seems really good at stalling, so we'll stick with major.  Mizzou 12-4
157 - Ness dec. Lavallee.  Of course a pin is always possible, but Lavallee is very tough to score on, losing by 1 three times to Ian Miller.  Mizzou 12-7
165 - England dec Kingsley/Wanzek.  Toss-up, England has struggled at 165 so far, so he's due.  Mizzou 15-7
174 - Storley dec Eblen.  I don't like this match-up style-wise.  I think Eblen has a better shot at Evans. Toss-up, but I'm giving it to Minny.  Mizzou 15-10
184 - Miklus dec Pfarr.  Miklus is just better.  Not that impressed with Pfarr.  Mizzou 18-10
197 - Cox dec Schiller.  Schiller is in trouble.  Cox isn't gonna gas and he'll finish at least two of those takedowns.  I'll say 5-2.  Mizzou 21-10
Hwt - Kroells dec Mellon.  With nothing to wrestle for, Mellon will be uninspired.  If the dual is on the line, this could change.  Mizzou 21-13

If Ness pins and Dardanes wins, that would be 19-18 Minny.  But Mellon might win if that's the case.  Lots of great matches, this will be an awesome dual, win or lose for both.

College / National Duals in Iowa City
« on: February 03, 2015, 09:01:52 PM »
Who's going?  I just got my tickets and I'm stoked!  Don't have a place to stay on Sat nite yet, but I'll  cross that bridge when we come to it.

College / Mizzou v. Cornell
« on: January 07, 2015, 02:19:28 PM »
Waters/Garrett - Toss up.
Manley or Synon/Grey - Grey by dec.
Mayes/Arujau - Mayes by mdec
Houdashelt/Simaz - Houdashelt by mdec
Lavallee/Realbuto - Realbuto by dec
England/Palacio - Palacio by dec
Eblen/Pickett's back-up - Eblen by fall
Miklus/Dean - Dean by dec
Cox/Bennett - Cox by mdec or worse
Mellon/J.A-P - Mellon by dec

At best for Cornell its a 5-5 split, but Mizzou is gonna get bonus.  I just don't see their potential to match those bonus pts, unless lightning strikes.

Who ya got?

College / Mizzou v. Ohio State
« on: December 15, 2014, 09:34:54 AM »
Can't believe this has gotten zero attention on this board.  I realize this board has become the Guillotine 2.0, but I thought the B1G component would at least merit a mention. 

If anyone cares to chime in, please do.

125 - Waters dominated.  If he hadn't been ahead 8-1 and let off the gas, NT would never have come back like that.  Waters was never threatened, despite what tOSU fans would like to think.

133 - JDJ stalled on top, rode parallel without relief - half the time dropping to the legs without penalty.  This is when I knew the refs had been carefully selected by Ryan.

141 - No idea why Mayes didn't wrestle.  Giving up 6 to Stieber didn't seem like a strategic move.

149 - Match of the night!  tOSU fans are ALL crying about how Hunter was still injured, blah, blah, blah.  Now he and Nick Dardanes can compare notes.  Houdashelt = Hammer!

157 - Demas impressed me.  Lavallee I think AA's this year.  Demas will too.

165 - Awesome match.  Johnston was gassed bad, but repeatedly managed bursts of energy to score late, tying it up then winning in SV.  Gutsy performance.

174 - Martin just looked better than England.

184 - Miklus does what he does.  Surprised tOSU didn't think Courts could hang. 

197 - Snyder looked good.  Eblen wrestled poorly, played Snyder's game and continued to take bad shots when he should have just played defense.  He could have easily kept it to a regular decision, which would have won the match. 
Hwt - Cox beat a quality Hwt again, but I didn't like his slow pace.  Way to close for comfort.  I'll be glad when he can stay at 197.

College / Jim Gibbons' Laces Up previews
« on: March 18, 2014, 04:52:06 PM »
My man Gibbons predicting Houdashelt and Cox to win it.  I've always liked that guy!

Off-Topic / Tigerfan's Joke of the Day!
« on: January 04, 2014, 12:13:55 PM »
Q:  How are tornadoes and marriages alike?

A: They both begin with a lot of sucking and blowing, but in the end you lose your house.

College / Stock up or down?
« on: January 04, 2014, 10:20:38 AM »
Now that Midlands and Scuffle are in the books, I haven't seen this thread started yet. 

Off the top of my head:


Gabe Dean
Thomas Gilman
Sam Wheeler - Did anyone see this coming?  He destroyed Steinhaus and Eblen.
J'Den Cox


Ryan Mango
Tyler Graff
Taylor Meeks
Mike Moreno

Haven't really looked at the Midlands results that closely yet.  Care to chime in?

Off-Topic / Anchorman 2: The Legend of Ron Burgundy
« on: December 25, 2013, 12:06:06 PM »
I know its only cool to think sequels suck, but this movie tested the bounds of comedy like only Will Ferrell can manage.  Not sure the result was a great movie, but man oh man it was chock full of awesome one-liners and bizarre references.

Can't wait to use this at the next wrestling match during an injury, "Don't you die in front us, Ron!  Don't you die!"

College / Mizzou pulls Cox's redshirt!
« on: November 01, 2013, 08:30:21 PM »
Surprised me.  J'Den Cox wrestled 197 vs. Ndsu and won 14-4 with 5 min of RT. 

College / Mizzou's Black/Gold meet
« on: July 30, 2013, 04:23:41 PM »
2.     Mizzou Wrestling 1st Annual Alumni Black and Gold Match
When: Homecoming Weekend - October 26th  Time will be determined when Football kick-off is decided. (We want to have it about 3-4 hours before kick-off)
Where: The Hearne’s Arena
Who: Former Mizzou Wrestlers and Coaches will make up a team and wrestle against the current members of the team.  Confirmed former wrestlers ready to compete:
·         Nathan McCormick
·         Tyler McCormick
·         Marcus Hoehn
·         Todd Schavrien
·         Raymond Jordan
·         Tyron Woodley
·         Bobby Crawford
·         Michael Chandler
·         Nick Marable
·         Brooks Travis
·         Ben Askren
·         Dom Bradley
After the match we will have a BBQ/Tailgate run by the Takedown Club   

I thought this was a pretty cool idea.  Amazing that Askren, Chandler, and Woodley are risking injury to support the program like this.

College / Tournament scoring - Why is it different?
« on: July 01, 2013, 12:16:11 PM »
I'm sure this has probably been addressed, but I thought it might be worth some off-season debate.  My son never wrestled, but has become a casual fan over the years, stumped me with a simple question.  I was discussing the possible new format for duals counting towards team score in NCAA's and he wanted to know why the tournament isn't scored the same as the dual meets with which he is so familiar.  He said it is confusing.

I never really thought about it, it just is the way we've always done it.  Ex-wrestlers are used to it and don't even think twice, but with so much discussion about how wrestling can attract more casual fans, and the proper role of dual meets, I'm curious what you all think.  Why doesn't a win in a tournament count for 3,4,5,or 6 points for your team?  Would changing the scoring to mirror dual meets somehow alter the dynamics of tournaments, or would it just make the scores higher?  What do you all think?

High profile or under-the-radar?  I think it will be J'Den Cox of Missouri for several reasons. 

- Heavyweight is the weakest weight, by that I mean that Heavys are not as well-rounded technically as the other weights.

- Cox IS technically well-rounded, wrestles like a 165 lbr.  Think Tommy Rowlands.

- Dom Bradley will be in the room training for 2016 Olympics, as well as National Champ Mark Ellis.

It will be fun to look back in 5 years and see who got it right.  Discuss.

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