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College / Re: WrestleStat Pickem Contest has started!
« on: October 25, 2016, 02:07:37 PM »
Hayden Zillmer was listed on the pick'ems on your link, however he graduated last year. He's now a member of the NDSU Coaching Staff.

High School & Lower / Re: 8th graders on high school teams
« on: February 25, 2016, 10:58:25 AM »
North Dakota's Mr. Wrestler for Class "B" (Small Schools) this year was Michael Kelly. He was a 5X State Place-winner (1,1,1,3,7) and all 5 of the years he placed was in the heavyweight division. It's not uncommon for 7th/8th graders to place at state, but to do it at the heavyweight division is pretty impressive.

There were two state runner-ups, one in Class "A" (106 pounds) and one in Class "B" (126 Pounds) that were 8th graders this year as well.

High School & Lower / Re: The end of an Era
« on: February 25, 2016, 10:51:21 AM »
Our school district has gone through some major changes over the past month as we opened up a new building and did some redistribution of grades going from two to three buildings total. As a result, I was moved from being a 7-12 grade teacher to now teaching 4-6 grade. I figured there was no better time than the present to do a wrestling unit in PE as our Pee Wee wrestling program is just starting up. Overall it has been a huge success and kids all over the building are raving about wrestling! However, there have been a couple of things that have come up as very big points of concern:

1- Do boys have to wrestle girls?
2- Do we have to wear those funny looking uniforms?

Those are the two biggest negative connotations that concern kids about the sport of wrestling right now. As a high school coach who was in a high school building up until last month I recruited the hallways hard and the singlet issue was the number one sticking point for many kids. I'm not saying that if they change the rule and allow for shorts/t-shirts that these same kids won't come up with a new excuse, but at the time being, singlets are the number one excuse I hear for why kids don't want to wrestle.

High School & Lower / Re: 8th graders on high school teams
« on: January 14, 2016, 03:50:54 PM »
Minnesota allows 7th-12th, Mark Hall won his first state title there when he repeated 8th grade (after losing in the Kentucky state finals)

I'm pretty sure Mark Hall repeated the 7th grade. I'm pretty sure he was a Kentucky state runner-up as a 7th grader, then went to AV and won a state title as a 7th grader the next year going on to win titles 5 straight years and could (Will)  become MN's first 6X State Champ this year.

Kentucky allows 7th and up, I think North Dakota does too because wasn't Storley a 6 timer?

Storley was a 6X state champ from Webster, South Dakota. SD and ND both allow 7th/8th graders on varsity. Jordan Shearer was the first ever 6X ND State Champion last year for West Fargo, ND.

Coaching and Technique / Re: Drill vs Situations
« on: October 09, 2015, 01:22:42 PM »
I have struggled with this debate in my own wrestling room with my coaching staff as well. Here is what we do- Not saying it's right or wrong, but it seems to work well for us.

1- Instruction: Show the technique that you want to teach. Demonstrate it, Break it down step by step and walk the kids through it
2- Drill it: start slow- step by step at first and speed it up as they get comfortable with it.
3- Live Situations: Let them do some live situations to work on the new technique and the most important thing we find is that we need to be watching as many groups as possible. If the kids look like they have a pretty solid grasp on the move, we move on.
4- Reteach- If during live goes the kids show that they are not comfortable with the technique, or maybe just parts of the technique (hand placement, head position, etc.) we re-teach those areas of the technique, let them drill again with emphasis on the problem areas, then let them go live again.

The biggest issue on this is following practice plans and time-frames. Sometimes I have 3-4 techniques planned that I want to cover in a given day and we get to one of them and the kids just don't grasp it and we end up spending a lot more time than planned so we do not get to some of the other techniques. Other days, the kids pick up on them very fast, there is very little time spent in the reteaching phase, and we're left with "extra time" and need to find a filler for that time... the second problem is much easier as we can simply review techniques from the previous day or continue on with something new.

Wrestlingref - Officiating / Rules Interpretation
« on: February 05, 2015, 09:48:21 AM »
What would happen in a match if Wrestler "A" committed a false-start and got a caution, but his actions caused Wrestler "B" to become injured and he couldn't continue the match- even though the cause of the injury was completely legal Such as:

From Neutral- Wrestler "A" tries to time the whistle and takes a quick low-single and hyperextends his opponent's knee
From Bottom- Wrestler "A" tries to time the whistle and does a fast, hard stand up and accidentally headbutts his opponent, breaking his nose
From Top- Wrestler "A" tries to time the whistle and does an arm-chop breakdown hyperextending his opponent's elbow.

In all of these instances, the maneuver that wrestler "A" is doing is a legal move, but it happens before the whistle blows and results in injury.

Does Wrestler "A" become disqualified or does wrestler "B" have to injury default if he cannot continue?

College / Re: Oregon State: 9 questions to answer for upcoming season
« on: October 06, 2014, 10:35:35 PM »
Weston Dobler is one of my favorite kids to watch in North Dakota. I've been watching him since he was in Junior High and he's always been a stud. Nice pick up for the Beavers! And a nice little pipeline they've had over the past couple years from ND to OSU.

College / Gopher Articles
« on: August 21, 2014, 12:50:24 PM »
Here's a couple good reads about the Gophers- One is about their All-Time Team and one is about recruiting.

How about this tidbit from one of Wyoming's Neighbors- Montana... They too can qualify multiple state entrants per weight class.

Havre High School in Havre, MT did just that this year, they qualified two wrestlers at 220 pounds. Tyler and Travis Adams, a Senior and a Sophomore... brothers. And they both made the finals and wrestled each other for the state championship (Senior Tyler won).

International / Re: Greco World Cup
« on: May 16, 2014, 02:40:29 PM »
Another thing to consider, especially in our country, our best athletes don't even wrestle. They play other glorified sports like basketball or football and never step foot on a mat. There are kids literally walking the halls right now, that would beat our best talent right now, if they were recognized and coached.
  - Rock we rarely agree on political matters , but you are 100% correct with your comments above.

I agree with most of that, but trust me there's not a kid with an ounce of athletic ability walking around my school that hasn't been approached about wrestling. I don't think its about getting out and finding these kids, i think its about convincing them to give our sport a chance.

International / Re: Greco World Cup
« on: May 16, 2014, 01:58:38 PM »
I agree with a lot of what is being said here, but also disagree with some of the comments as well- Should FOX cancel "Family Guy" or "The Simpsons" because "Bob's Burgers" isn't getting high enough ratings, under the idea proposed to get rid of Folkstyle this would be the same idea- Get rid of what is working, or what people like, to force people to get better at what isn't working so well.

I agree with Ray's 1st point- I have been a wrestling coach for over 10 years now and have been involved in the sport for 22 years total as a competitor/coach. The school I attended did not have a Freestyle/Greco club and the nearest one was over 90 miles one way from where I lived, so needless to say, I didn't learn those styles or compete in them. Now as a coach, I am seeing the obvious benefits that they can have on wrestlers who do compete and am slowly learning the styles to implement them into our spring/summer programs, however I am far from being an adequate freestyle or greco instructor. If Folkstyle were to be dropped tomorrow, there is no way in hell I could ever continue coaching at the level that I currently coach at, and despite a strong passion for the sport I certainly wouldn't take the step down from Head coach to pee-wee club coach or whatever level it might be that I would have the skill-set to be able to effectively coach.

Coach Prebes- I have to disagree with your statement about folkstyle not translating. Self-admittedly I am not a greco guru, but Steve Fraser was at our high school last summer for a camp and he couldn't stress enough how ALL styles of wrestling enhance each other, so coming from the Greco Olympic coach at that time, I'll take his word over yours. It may not translate as much, but wrestling is wrestling.

High School & Lower / ND duals
« on: February 03, 2014, 01:29:12 AM »
Saw 2 different oddities this past weekend in North Dakota- state dual Qualifying tournaments were happening.

Carrington 84, larimore 0

Largest possible margin of victory.


Velva 12, new Town 9

9 double forfeits. 21 total pts in a dual. (1.5 pts/weight class)

High School & Lower / Tie-breaker for team standings
« on: January 17, 2014, 11:11:12 AM »
Scenario- Top 2 teams in Regional team-standings qualify for state duals

Team A- 6-0
Team B- 4-2 (Lost to Team A and C)
Team C- 4-2 (Lost to Team A and D)
Team D- 4-2 (Lost to team A and B)

Team E- 2-4
Team F- 1-5
Team G- 0-6

How would you separate Teams B, C, & D to determine who the 2nd team is?

Oh my god, it's a conspiracy against High School Wrestling! Rockhard, didn't I see you on a TV commercial for the upcoming episode of "Doomsday Preppers?" Everyone's out to get you, they're all working against you! You better crawl into your fallout shelter and stay there for a while until its safe to come out.

I suppose that the "Powers that be" are also secretly trying to price out basketball in North Dakota as well... afterall, they have recently adopted the shot clock rule which forced every school in the state with a BB program to purchase a shot-clock. These can be thousands of dollars.

Oh and don't forget about the conspiracy to end baseball as well! They're flip-flopping the rules about metal vs. wood bats every other year seemingly. It's a super secret evil plan to price out baseball teams by forcing the to spend their budgets on new bats!!!! (Shhhh, don't tell anyone!) and they're conspiring against fastpitch softball as well!!!

I questioned whether you were ignorant or arrogant the other day. Now I'm starting to realize it's both.

You can have up to 4 levels per sport on your hudl account- You can have a Varsity team, JV team, Jr. High Team, and club team for the initial $800. Again, if you combine this with other athletic programs in your school, you can get a much reduced cost.

You are not going to educate me on Hudl, I have been using it for quite a while and I have never had it "not work right." Which makes me believe it was more likely operator error if you struggled to make it work correctly. Why bitch and moan about hudl anyway? The OSAA does not require you to use that and you obviously can't afford it so your attacks on Hudl are either completely based on made up assumptions or your budget issues aren't as big of a concern as you make them sound...

Back to the topic at hand of Track Wrestling- $100 to run a tournament. OK, Lets just pretend for one second like I feel sorry for you and your poor budget. $100 is peanuts in the grand scheme of running a wrestling tournament- If you have an 8 team tournament and charge $50 bucks apiece, you're still ahead $300. If you spend another $15 on awards per weight class (which is extremely on the high end of what awards cost), that's only another $210 and you're still ahead $90 bucks. You can make money on concessions, admission for fans, hold a 50/50 raffle, Sell team apparel, etc. and there is no reason that after your tournament is over you are ahead by THOUSANDS of dollars. I have been a head coach of three different programs over the past 10 years. I have run Varsity in-season tournaments, Varsity Regional Tournaments, Junior varsity tournaments, K-6th Grade Tournaments, etc. I have run 2-3 tournaments a year or more (a minimum of 25 tournaments) and NEVER have we come out behind. I think a $1500 profit is probably the minimum that we've EVER made on running a tournament and that was for a k-6th grade tournament in Rural North Dakota during a blizzard.

And if your pathetic wrestling budget is such a crippling problem that you face each year, I would suggest holding multiple tournaments! Track Wrestling offers discounts for schools/clubs that hold multiple tournaments in the same season. Holding multiple tournaments = multiple fund-raising opportunities. The first tournament you hold pays for your travel budget for the season. The second tournament you hold pays for your Tanita Scale, the next year you don't pay for a tanita scale again so your second tournament goes towards Uniforms/Warm-ups, etc.

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