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High School & Lower / Re: Not so Random
« on: February 15, 2018, 11:49:40 AM »
The only difference is that the random draw is mandatory in high school, optional in college. No mention of how the random draw is conducted.

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High School & Lower / Re: Not so Random
« on: February 13, 2018, 11:50:58 PM »
Starting meets at 125 versus the schools and the news reporting scores starting at 125 skew the results.

Fundamentally, who cares ?  Everyone wrestles.


Exactly. Why have a rule that isn't followed or enforced?  An opportunity to shorten and simplify the rule book, if only in a small way.
The rule should be followed sim ply because it is a rule.  Refs should never pick and choose what rules they want to follow and what rules they want to ignore.  That prerogative seems to be solely in the hands of POTUS.


That's a good point as well.  Not following a rule, however minor (as might be the case here), can be a slippery slope.  On one hand, who cares? On the other, rules are there to be enforced.


Surprisingly, the referee isn't required to be present at an NFHS-compliant random draw.  It can be an "authorized person", a term left undefined in the NFHS rules.

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High School & Lower / Re: Not so Random
« on: February 13, 2018, 10:21:11 PM »
Starting meets at 125 versus the schools and the news reporting scores starting at 125 skew the results.

Fundamentally, who cares ?  Everyone wrestles.


Exactly. Why have a rule that isn't followed or enforced?  An opportunity to shorten and simplify the rule book, if only in a small way.

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High School & Lower / Not so Random
« on: February 08, 2018, 04:49:26 PM »
What the chance that Rule 1.2.2 is being followed? As close as you can get to zero.


Here's the data.






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Without reference to the NWCA, the NFHS data (boys only) shows sequential participation declines for six years starting in 2010/11. During that same period, overall sports participation is flat to slightly up, so wrestling is losing share according to the data.  Also, over the same period the average roster size declined from 26.3 in 2010/11 to 23.0 in 2016/17.  Whether any of this is statistically meaningful is beyond my pay grade.



https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/sports/columnists/2018/01/16/heiser-participation-down-forfeits-up-high-school-wrestling-searches-solutions/1037804001/

"The National Wrestling Coaches Association reports that the average size of a high school wrestling roster has decreased from 37 to 23 in the last six years and that 29 percent of high school dual-meet matches now result in forfeits. In addition, high school boys’ participation in wrestling — which ranks seventh among high school sports — has dropped six straight years."

This is one of those insidiously wrong factoids that just won't die. The drop in roster size from 37 to 23 is from 1975 to today, not in the last six years (you can check yourself here (http://www.nfhs.org/ParticipationStatics/ParticipationStatics.aspx/). Most of the loss in roster size had been due to a growing number of programs while the number of participants stayed mostly flat. For example, in 1971-72, there were 7587 HS wrestling teams with 265.039 wrestlers. By 2016-17, there were 10,629 HS wrestling teams for 244,804 athletes. We had 273,732 wrestlers in 2010-11 before the latest slide began, though it is difficult to tell if this is a serious issue or just a downcycle.  There are many up and downturns in the popularity of the sport throughout the data which clouds the issue. Certainly, there are changes that can be made to help, but it appears having more teams than the wrestling population can support in some areas is one of the problems here.

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According to the NFHS data (boys only), Texas and Oklahoma ranked #1 and #2, respectively, in number of wrestlers added from 2010/11 to 2015/16.  In contrast, nine states experienced a participation decline of more than 14%.  Both Washington and Oregon participation declined by nearly 21% over the period.

but it appears having more teams than the wrestling population can support in some areas is one of the problems here.
Not buying this.  If a person goes into a tiny Oklahoma town (or any tiny town for that matter - I know so many small towns in Oklahoma have excellent participation), they are not having an effect on a program somewhere else.  It is making wrestling available over a larger percentage of the country.  A program in Duncan is not detrimental to a program in Lawton.  (I am from Texas and am aware of the situation in Oklahoma.  In Texas, each high school that adds wrestling does not diminish from the next high school that already has wrestling.  Each high school is their own isolated "world" and growth or failure is contingent upon what happens within that high school.

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The graph is intended to show decrease in participation by state. The horizontal scale isn't relevant; it's log just to spread out the data.

Hard to say what this graphic shows when the scale is note proportional on the horizontal axis.



Recently, much written here and elsewhere about the participation decline in high school wrestling (boys).  Here's what the data looks like at the state level.










Original post.

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High School & Lower / Re: Using iPads for Stats
« on: November 01, 2017, 07:47:51 PM »
For parents:


Help your kid get a look from college wrestling coaches.  Here's how:



https://www.levelchanger.com/blog/2017/10/25/increase-your-childs-chances-for-wrestling-in-college

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High School & Lower / Re: Using iPads for Stats
« on: October 18, 2017, 03:50:16 PM »
Release 2.8 available for download from the App Store.

New feature: copy event results and weigh-ins to your team's Trackwrestling account in less than a minute.

https://www.levelchanger.com/new-upload-results-opc-on-trackwrestling/

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High School & Lower / Re: Using iPads for Stats
« on: October 02, 2017, 03:37:05 PM »
For the upcoming season, Release 2.7 with auto-generated and network-delivered professional scoring graphics for your match video.  Available now in the App Store.


https://www.levelchanger.com/blog/2017/10/1/release-27

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High School & Lower / Re: How Fat are High School Wrestlers?
« on: October 02, 2017, 03:03:28 AM »
The axis are set to show the data min/max values, nothing arbitrary about that.  Misleading in what way?

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High School & Lower / Re: High School Wrestling By the Numbers
« on: August 03, 2017, 04:35:07 PM »
Someone asked if the boys wrestling participation decline could be related to state population decline which, in turn, could cause an overall decrease in high school sports participation. Good question. If this were the case, then we wouldn't be alarmed.  After all, if the overall level of participation is declining, then we might naturally expect a decline in wrestling participation, too.  That would be a population problem, not necessarily a wrestling problem.


However, nationwide participation in boys high school sports is up about 2% from 2009/10 to 2015/16. During this period, wrestling's share of total participation went from ~6.2% to 5.6%.  Also during this period, wrestling's share of boys "contact" sports declined from ~9.4% to 8.5%.


"Contact" sports that grew during the period 2009/10 to 2015/16:


  • Soccer +48K participants
  • Lacrosse +19K participants
  • Baseball +16K participants


"Contact" sports that declined during the period:

  • Football (11 & 8 player) -23K participants
  • Wrestling -22K participants







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Recently, much written here and elsewhere about the participation decline in high school wrestling (boys).  Here's what the data looks like at the state level.










Original post.

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College / Re: WrestleStat is ready for the new season!
« on: July 12, 2017, 09:27:57 PM »
Looking forward to it!

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