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Should a mosque be allowed to be built at ground zero?

Yes
6 (37.5%)
No
6 (37.5%)
It depends
1 (6.3%)
I don\'t care
3 (18.8%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: July 12, 2010, 01:21:00 PM

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Mosque at ground zero
« on: July 12, 2010, 01:21:00 PM »
Here's an article on the protest: http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_29079.php

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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2010, 01:25:14 PM »
I honestly do not care, I see no legal reason as to why it can not be.

I amy not like the idea etc... but as long its done the correct way, I see no reason why or how it could be denied.
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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2010, 01:52:32 PM »
Build it , then bomb it.
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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 02:48:41 PM »
Quote from: "Viratas"
I honestly do not care, I see no legal reason as to why it can not be.

I amy not like the idea etc... but as long its done the correct way, I see no reason why or how it could be denied.

Pig Latin??  :lol:
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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010, 01:19:37 AM »
I don't understand why it would ever be not allowed.

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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010, 03:10:23 PM »
I voted "no".  Islam is responsible for the terrorist attack and Islam is attempting to rule the world including the USA.  Once they have the numbers and the power, they will force in one way or another, including physical means, and adherence to their belief system.  The day is coming.
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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2010, 08:56:15 AM »
Of course it should be allowed to be built.  This is America, it is a free country and religion cannot in our pluralistic society be used to deny the right to purchase and build on a property that is not in the public domain.
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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2010, 01:08:02 PM »
So by your own logic it should be perfectly acceptable to build a meeting hall for the KKK next to this building...

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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2010, 01:31:55 PM »
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So by your own logic it should be perfectly acceptable to build a meeting hall for the KKK next to this building...


I did not realize the KKK was a religion.  I thought they were a hate group whose expressed purpose is to cleanse the US of all free Negros and Jews as well?  don't think they care much for papist (that is Catholics for you from Rio Linda). Have they changed the position?
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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2010, 02:14:05 PM »
So you are saying they should not be able to build there? Why not? How about building a Nazi memorial next to the Holocaust museum? Not whether it is in good taste, but whether it is legal.
Imagine the good that could be done, if people were less worried about their differences, and more worried about doing good for everyone.

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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2010, 02:39:39 PM »
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So you are saying they should not be able to build there? Why not? How about building a Nazi memorial next to the Holocaust museum? Not whether it is in good taste, but whether it is legal.

A NAZI Museum, commemerating all the attrocities and crimes against humanity that they commited in addition to the Holocaust would be very fitting next to the Holocaust Museum.
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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2010, 02:54:59 PM »
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Quote from: "Cougar1"
So by your own logic it should be perfectly acceptable to build a meeting hall for the KKK next to this building...


I did not realize the KKK was a religion.  I thought they were a hate group whose expressed purpose is to cleanse the US of all free Negros and Jews as well?  don't think they care much for papist (that is Catholics for you from Rio Linda). Have they changed the position?

Some people think of Islam as a religion of hatred, misogyny and violence. I happen to share that view.
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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2010, 02:56:45 PM »
Quote from: "coachsparky"
Quote from: "AKIN"
So you are saying they should not be able to build there? Why not? How about building a Nazi memorial next to the Holocaust museum? Not whether it is in good taste, but whether it is legal.

A NAZI Museum, commemerating all the attrocities and crimes against humanity that they commited in addition to the Holocaust would be very fitting next to the Holocaust Museum.

Unlike the Nazi Museum as you are suggesting it is highly unlikely that the Mosque will be providing insight into the murderous rampages committed across the globe in the name of Islam.
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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2010, 03:04:56 PM »
Quote from: "Cougar1"
Here's an article on the protest: http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_29079.php

Please respomd to the question and explain your answer.

If they are the title holders and the zoning allows for churches etc. It should be allowed.

That does NOT mean I think its a good idea for the Muslims to put it there. To me this is their way of using our freedoms to antagonize them.

If I was a cop... and I saw someone throw a rock through the mosque window, and the perp ran when I investigated.... I wouldnt spend too much energy chasing him.
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Re: Mosque at ground zero
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2010, 03:13:52 PM »
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I don't understand why it would ever be not allowed.
There may be zoning restrictions against religious buildings there.

Or there may be a requirement to get approval by a planning commission. If for instance part of the approval criteria that the commission must examine includes phrases such as, "will the proposed construction be harmonious with surround improvements?" (for instance allowing them to deny a permit to a porn shop that is next to a school) or "is the proposed construction likely to cause public outrage or disorder?", then the commission may legally use their discretion to deny the application. The muslims would then begin the appeals process that would most likely go to a higher authority such as the city council or perhaps a different regulatory commission and after losing there would seek relief from the city or district court.
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