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News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« on: February 19, 2013, 01:59:28 PM »
Use this thread to post articles about the battle to save Olympic Wrestling.
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 01:59:48 PM »
By Gary Abbott USA Wrestling
02/18/2013

A committee of highly-respected leaders within the American wrestling community has been formed, whose mission is to insure that wrestling remains as a core sport of the Olympic Games.

The group is called the Committee for the Preservation of Olympic Wrestling (CPOW), and is chaired by Bill Scherr of Glenview, Ill., a World champion and Olympic medalist in freestyle wrestling, who help spearhead the Chicago 2016 Olympic bid effort and is a top businessman in the financial services industry.

Named as the spokesman for CPOW is Mike Novogratz of New York, N.Y., a highly respected business leader who was the Team Leader for the 2012 U.S. Olympic freestyle wrestling team, the chairman of Beat the Streets in New York and a top college wrestler for Princeton.

John Bardis of Alpharetta, Ga. was selected by the committee to serve as Director of Development and Finance. Bardis served as the Team Leader for the 2008 U.S. Olympic Greco-Roman Team and is also a major business leader. Bardis was a successful high school and college wrestler.

The committee was created by USA Wrestling to develop and execute a successful strategy, which will result in wrestling being named as a core sport for the 2020 Olympic Games and beyond. This week, the International OIympic Committee’s Executive Board recommended that wrestling not be included as a core sport for the 2020 Olympic Games.

Joining Novogratz and Bardis on the committee as wrestling leaders who are successful businessmen include Andy Barth of San Marino, Calif., Jeff Levitetz of Boca Raton, Fla., Art Martori of Phoenix, Ariz. and USA Wrestling president James Ravannack of Metairie, La.

Also on the committee is sports executive Jim Scherr of Colorado Springs, Colo. Currently Commissioner of a college hockey conference, Scherr was the CEO of the U.S. Olympic Committee and a past USA Wrestling Executive Director.

Lee Roy Smith, the Executive Director of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame and a World silver medalist in freestyle serves on the committee. Roger Frizzell, an NCAA All-American and leader in the public relations community is involved, as is Michael DerGarabedian, a successful attorney and past college wrestler.

Wrestling legends who are also members include World and Olympic champions Bruce Baumgartner, Dan Gable and Rulon Gardner, and two-time Olympians Kerry McCoy and Clarissa Chun. They have been successful as leaders off the mat as well.

“We have engaged many of the most connected and brightest minds in our sport, an all-star leadership group. We have a great opportunity to show the world why wrestling belongs on the Olympic program,” said USA Wrestling Executive Director Rich Bender, who is also a CPOW member.

COMMITTEE FOR THE PRESERVATION OF OLYMPIC WRESTLING (CPOW)

Committee members
Chairperson – Bill Scherr, Glenville, Ill.
Spokesperson – Mike Novogratz, New York, N.Y.
Director of Development and Finance – John Bardis, Alpharetta, Ga.
Andy Barth, San Marino, Calif.
Bruce Baumgartner, Edinboro, Pa.
Rich Bender, Colorado Springs, Colo.
Clarissa Chun, Columbia, Mo.
Mike DerGarabedian, Rockville Center, N.Y.
Roger Frizzell, Kingston, Okla.
Dan Gable, Iowa City, Iowa
Rulon Gardner, Logan, Utah
Jeff Levitetz, Boca Raton, Fla.
Art Martori, Phoenix, Ariz.
Kerry McCoy, College Park, Md.
James Ravannack, Metairie, La.
Jim Scherr, Colorado Springs, Colo.
John Smith, Stillwater, Okla.
Lee Roy Smith, Stillwater, Okla.

MISSION AND OBJECTIVES

The mission of the Committee for the Preservation of Olympic Wrestling is to insure that wrestling remains as a core sport of the Olympic Games.

We intend to accomplish this mission by:

• Working with FILA and the international wrestling community to insure that wrestling will remain a core Olympic sport.

• Mobilizing and energizing the wrestling community and the American public to support our mission.

• Leading the effort for solicitation and allocation of volunteer and financial resources for the preservation of Olympic Wrestling

• Raising awareness of the positive values and contributions of wrestling to the Olympic movement

• Working with FILA and the international wrestling community for the continued development and modernization of wrestling

• Joining with like-minded groups globally to unite our efforts to preserve Olympic Wrestling.
http://www.themat.com/section.php?section_id=3&page=showarticle&ArticleID=26084
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 02:06:35 PM »

Statement from Acting FILA President Nenad Lalovic to the international wrestling community


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By FILA
02/18/2013

posted on the FILA website on Feb. 18, 2013 by acting FILA President Nenad Lalovic

FILA takes its responsibly very seriously on behalf of all the 180 affiliated National Federations and all the wrestlers in the world. We understand the IOC recommendation and respect the process. As a sport, we are willing to undertake all the necessary steps for our sport to remain on the core program of the Olympic Games.

The world of wrestling is understandably disappointed by the IOC Executive Board’s recommendation to remove wrestling from the 2020 Olympic Games program. We see this as an opportunity which could be a positive turning point for our sport. One thing is for certain : it is our responsibility alone to address the issues that led to this situation. We are listening to the IOC’s concerns and learning from their guidance. We must strive to improve our sport’s Olympic offering in order to retain our position on the Olympic program and evolve with the times.

On behalf of FILA and the entire wrestling community, we thank Mr. Raphaël Martinetti for his huge contribution and his lifelong service to the sport.


What an arrogant jackass!  It was his organization that lost the Olympics and now he wants to have the only say in its reinstatement. If this is their attitude we really do need a new governing body.
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 02:08:25 PM »

Lalovic named interim FILA president with Dziedzic as assistant and Scherr added to FILA Bureau

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By Gary Abbott USA Wrestling
02/17/2013

FILA, the international wrestling federation, has confirmed that Raphael Martinetti of Switzerland has stepped down as its president during its Executive Board meeting in Phuket, Thailand.

FILA Bureau member Nenad Lalovic of Serbia has been named as acting president. Lalovic currently serves as a member of the European Council of Associated Wrestling (CELA) as well as on FILA’s Ethical and Legal Commission.

A FILA statement indicated that “Mr. Martinetti hopes that this situation will help save wrestling… Mr. Martinetti also wishes plenty of success to Mr. Lalovic for the mission that now rests in his hands.”

FILA Vice President Stan Dziedzic of the United States has been selected by Lalovic as his assistant in the leadership of the organization. Dziedzic, a past USA Wrestling president, was a World champion in men’s freestyle wrestling.

Another decision reached by the FILA was to add three members to the FILA Bureau to participate in the effort to retain wrestling in the Olympic Games: Jim Scherr of the United States, Alexander Kareline of Russia and Pedro Gama Filho of Brazil.

Scherr is currently the Commissioner of the National Collegiate Hockey Conference. He served as the CEO of the United States Olympic Committee and is a past Executive Director of USA Wrestling. He was a member of the 1988 U.S. Olympic men’s freestyle wrestling team and a three-time World medalist.

Kareline is a three-time Olympic champion and four-time Olympic medalist in Greco-Roman, and also won nine World Championship gold medals. He serves in the Duma, which is Russia’s Parliament.

Filho serves as the president of the Brazilian Wrestling Federation, which is the nation which will host the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio de Janiero.

The FILA Executive Board meetings continue for one more day in Phuket.
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 03:36:51 PM »
I'm puzzled by this post:

"FILA takes its responsibly very seriously on behalf of all the 180 affiliated National Federations and all the wrestlers in the world. We understand the IOC recommendation and respect the process. As a sport, we are willing to undertake all the necessary steps for our sport to remain on the core program of the Olympic Games.

The world of wrestling is understandably disappointed by the IOC Executive Board’s recommendation to remove wrestling from the 2020 Olympic Games program. We see this as an opportunity which could be a positive turning point for our sport. One thing is for certain : it is our responsibility alone to address the issues that led to this situation. We are listening to the IOC’s concerns and learning from their guidance. We must strive to improve our sport’s Olympic offering in order to retain our position on the Olympic program and evolve with the times.

On behalf of FILA and the entire wrestling community, we thank Mr. Raphaël Martinetti for his huge contribution and his lifelong service to the sport."

Wasn't it, "...listening to the IOC's concerns and learning from their guidance" that got us here in the first place?
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 03:40:25 PM »
I'm puzzled by this post:

"FILA takes its responsibly very seriously on behalf of all the 180 affiliated National Federations and all the wrestlers in the world. We understand the IOC recommendation and respect the process. As a sport, we are willing to undertake all the necessary steps for our sport to remain on the core program of the Olympic Games.

The world of wrestling is understandably disappointed by the IOC Executive Board’s recommendation to remove wrestling from the 2020 Olympic Games program. We see this as an opportunity which could be a positive turning point for our sport. One thing is for certain : it is our responsibility alone to address the issues that led to this situation. We are listening to the IOC’s concerns and learning from their guidance. We must strive to improve our sport’s Olympic offering in order to retain our position on the Olympic program and evolve with the times.

On behalf of FILA and the entire wrestling community, we thank Mr. Raphaël Martinetti for his huge contribution and his lifelong service to the sport."

Wasn't it, "...listening to the IOC's concerns and learning from their guidance" that got us here in the first place?
Allow me to translate.

What else should we do to de-legitimize wrestling to please those who wish we weren't around?
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 03:52:40 PM »
Vise, In all seriousness, do you believe the IOC doesn't want us around? Not trying to be smart here, but the action is so over the top I was at a loss for any other explanation myself. I believe the IOC was "Sportsatainment" not sports in the Olympics.
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2013, 03:54:46 PM »
Vise, In all seriousness, do you believe the IOC doesn't want us around? Not trying to be smart here, but the action is so over the top I was at a loss for any other explanation myself. I believe the IOC was "Sortsatainment" not sports in the Olympics.

What other conclusion could you draw?
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2013, 03:59:28 PM »
None I guess, very depressing to thinks have sunk this low that a foundational sport of the Olympics is declared redundant.
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2013, 04:05:40 PM »
None I guess, very depressing to thinks have sunk this low that a foundational sport of the Olympics is declared redundant.

If I had to guess, considering the past history of financial impropriety, some sports were bribing officials to keep their sport in and wrestling was the odd man out.  But I dont believe the IOC really anticipated the response they are getting now. And so now they are looking for some face saving move to change their mind.

But its up to the wrestling world to keep the heat upon them until they change this decision.  Yet what we dont want to do is sell our soul to stay in the games.

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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2013, 05:28:51 PM »
An article from Slate


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Last month Sports Illustrated ran a story celebrating Olympic founder Pierre de Coubertin’s 150th birthday and his legacy, written by current head of the International Olympic Committee, Count Jacques Rogge. Rogge trumpets the Herculean effort put in by Coubertin and the values embodied in the Olympic Charter, and says that the IOC still operates by the values he laid out a century ago. Reading it the other day, certain lines have a different resonance than they might have just a few weeks ago. “Would Coubertin be happy with everything that has transpired since his death in 1937?” Rogge asks. “Of course not.” Well, add another posthumous disappointment to the list.
On Tuesday, the International Olympic Committee issued a press release announcing the 25 “core sports” they were recommending for the 2020 Olympics. They also revealed the eight “shortlisted sports” that were now “vying for inclusion.” Those eight? Baseball/softball, karate, roller sports, sport climbing, squash, wakeboarding, wushu—and wrestling. The IOC will decide in the spring which three of these sports to recommend for the 2020 games, and the IOC’s entire caucus will then convene in September to rule on which sports to approve in the final decision.
While partisans of wakeboarding and wushu were no doubt disappointed by the news, no one was as outraged as wrestling enthusiasts—and for good reason. Wrestling was not only featured at the first modern Olympics in 1896 (and at every summer Olympics since 1908) but was a major part of the ancient Olympics as well, going back to 708 B.C. (At the ancient games, it was both a standalone event and the culminating contest in the pentathlon.) And it’s not some provincial pastime that only the Greeks were fond of either: There’s evidence for wrestling across the ancient world—the activity shows up, for instance, in both the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Book of Genesis. Nearly every culture has some form of wrestling, from Bökh in Mongolia to Glima in Iceland. For a more recent example of how wrestling crosses cultures, consider that this week the Times of Israel ran an AP story datelined in Tehran about how devastated Iranians are about the potential loss of the Olympic sport. In Iran, wrestling is both the national sport and a symbol of ethical conduct and fairness. Meanwhile, a headline in wrestling hotbed Iowa read, “Worse than death.” As Missouri’s Brian Smith, college coach of 2008 Olympian Ben Askren said to me, “Name one issue where the U.S. and Iran would be on the same page: It’s wrestling.”
So what happened? The IOC has a list of 39 criteria under which they supposedly evaluated the core sports, grouped into the categories of reciprocal value, governance, tradition, universality, popularity, international development, and finance. As the University of Nebraska’s Bryan Snyder, coach of Olympic gold medalist Jordan Burroughs, said to me, “When you have a list of criteria, that should preclude the politics. Each sport could be evaluated on its merits.” But it’s hard to look at that set of criteria and conclude that wrestling failed to make the cut purely on those terms.
Wrestling has a list of affiliates in 177 countries and enjoyed sell-out crowds in the London games. As Jim Litke of the AP pointed out this week, the sport “generates twice the TV audience worldwide” of the modern pentathlon, an event many expected to be dropped, but which was spared from possible exclusion. As Litke notes, the vice president of the modern pentathlon’s governing body sits on the IOC board. (That vice president, Juan Antonio Samaranch Jr., is also the son of the late, long-serving IOC president.) The modern pentathlon was created by Pierre de Coubertin, founder of the modern Olympics, and so it, too, has some tradition on its side—just not the millennia of tradition that wrestling enjoys.
Did Samaranch save the modern pentathlon? Perhaps. Was badminton spared by the head of the 2020 Evaluation Committee, Sir Craig Reedie, a former doubles champion in the sport who is credited with bringing it to the Olympics just a couple decades ago? Did the presence on the IOC of Jim Easton, “CEO of the leading archery equipment company,” ensure that bows and arrows would be at the 2020 games? It’s impossible for an outside observer not to wonder about such things after the absurd decision regarding wrestling. The IOC, which includes sheiks, counts, dukes, princesses, and members of the Royal Order in addition to businessmen, has plenty of shady backroom politics in its past. As IOC member Richard Carrión of Puerto Rico told the AP, “Some people are better at lobbying than others.” Carrión added that “in a multi-national organization like this decisions get made in ways that are not completely logical.”
Olympic wrestling medalist Bill Scherr said this week that the international wrestling federation, FILA, “does no lobbying with the IOC, does not participate as a good citizen in IOC activities, and does not market itself.” And the IOC is certainly concerned with marketing. The same day that it released its statement about the “core sports” for 2020, it issued a separate press release about the strength of the Olympic brand. The “perception of the Olympic Games and the Olympic brand is very positive,” IOC president Jacque Rogge is quoted as saying in the release. “This trend is particularly evident among young people, which reflects the Games’ relevance in a highly fragmented global broadcasting market.” It’s possible that reps for other sports have been speaking this language better than the defenders of wrestling.
If so, then the proud sense of tradition many wrestlers and wrestling coaches feel could actually work against the efforts they may need to make to keep wrestling an Olympic sport. I spoke to my own former wrestling coach, Mark Faller, an Olympic alternate and coach of the 1984 Olympic gold medalists Ed and Lou Banach. “This move by the IOC will be the call that wakens a sleeping tiger,” he said. “Wrestling has always been blessed with an elegant level of underdeveloped recognition.” But he then expressed concern that wrestling might “transform into the pop culture attraction that it now competes against. God forbid,” he said.
I’m sympathetic to that noble-sounding sentiment, though it may not be the right strategy to engineer a reversal here. Barring serious reform of the IOC, wrestling partisans may need to speak its language. The wrestling community has already begun to campaign against the decision, and the head of FILA is meeting with Rogge to discuss the matter. While lovers of the sport consider their best tactics for survival, lovers of sport in general should once again consider the follies of the IOC.
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2013/02/olympic_wrestling_dropped_why_the_ioc_makes_dubious_decisions.html
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2013, 09:11:57 PM »
I think that the flowrestling article by Willie is really good.  It shows that Wrestling is THE international sport by participation and medal accolades.  When IOC gets hammered with this and a big bribe, they will have to cave.

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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2013, 09:45:29 AM »
I liked it too.
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Re: News in the Fight to Save Wrestling
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2013, 10:19:53 AM »
You guys like willies.
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