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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2014, 10:26:34 PM »
Yeah nothing like having the editor of your site constantly call everyone elses rankings garbage, then talk shit constantly on twitter. Because that's what professionals do.
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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2014, 10:28:31 PM »
Yeah nothing like having the editor of your site constantly call everyone elses rankings garbage, then talk shit constantly on twitter. Because that's what professionals do.

Lol, leave it to you guys to get this to escalate into the personal.  Thought we could potentially discuss here.

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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #62 on: January 20, 2014, 11:08:28 PM »
... maybe we need a disclaimer that says opinions of those critical of anyone are the opinions of the poster and not the website that facilitates a forum where posters posts such stuff.

I disagree with Rock just as much as anyone, but that's his comment and not "you guys" in reference to this entire site. Last time I checked, you too were a registered user here right, and before your current media situation, which makes your post just as much "you guys" as anyone else.

As for #1 guys losing, I again bring you to Alabama.

From 2011- Nov. 30, 2013, Alabama was 36-2 and had won two straight BCS national championships. The flukish ending loss to Auburn ended a 15-game win streak.

They didn't stay #1.

In every collegiate sport where computerized rankings are not used, when #1 gets beat, they almost always drop. There are RARE exceptions, but that might happen once a season.

Or how about this ... since Alabama had two losses and maybe that's considered a pattern.

From 1990-1993, Old Dominion's field hockey team won 66 straight games, an NCAA record that still stands. They won the 1990, 1991 and 1992 NCAA Division I championship. In 1992, they outscored their opponents 163-4 ... for the entire year. That's like not giving up a takedown the entire season and allowing like one escape. Then they lost a game in 1993 ... they weren't ranked #1 after that loss, despite their three year dominance.

Yes, they're team sports, but I think the comparison is relevant. The only way #1 stays after a loss is if 2, 3 and 4 lose (or something to that effect), or someone skips a match against a ranked opponent (like we did with DiJulius).

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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #63 on: January 20, 2014, 11:19:21 PM »
Yeah nothing like having the editor of your site constantly call everyone elses rankings garbage, then talk shit constantly on twitter. Because that's what professionals do.

Lol, leave it to you guys to get this to escalate into the personal.  Thought we could potentially discuss here.

Later guys.


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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #64 on: January 20, 2014, 11:27:09 PM »
Yeah nothing like having the editor of your site constantly call everyone elses rankings garbage, then talk shit constantly on twitter. Because that's what professionals do.

Lol, leave it to you guys to get this to escalate into the personal.  Thought we could potentially discuss here.

Later guys.

Guess you don't follow your bosses twitter rants about how everyone else is inferior to him. I speak for myself when I say, when you call someone out for saying something that you feel is derogatory towards your rankings, you only need to look at what your boss says weekly about everyone else.
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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2014, 10:17:17 AM »
I guess I'm curious as to who was the one who threw it out there that Loder was done for the year.  I will admit that I was surprised to see him wrestling already last night, but the plan has always been for him to come back as healthy as possible.

That hyperbole may have been me.   But Vais is being disingenuous when he focuses on that line and omits the rest.  As I have said I was trying to get Vais to address the fact that Loder was highly ranked yet had not competed for a month and a half.  Here is everything I posted:


"Earl is the only one to get this weight right.  Steiny should be #2.  Loder's 7th place AA last year should not override his meager record so far. "

"Loder out for season after hip surgury, still ranked 5th.
Take Loder out until he starts competing again.  He has a 3-0 record against unranked opposition:
Ryan Loder Dec Kurtis Julson (North Dakota State)  4-3TB, 
Ryan Loder Dec Dylan Iczkowski (Wisconsin)  1-0
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"Loder's season is over yet he stay's in the rankings?
He hasn't wrestled since 11-30 and his 3-0 record doesn't justify keeping him in the rankings.  While his coaches say they are encouraged by his progress they give no time frame on his return."

As you can see I say "Take Loder out until he starts competing again" and "While his coaches say they are encouraged by his progress they give no time frame on his return."   
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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2014, 10:34:15 AM »
Jammen, why don't you just use a different set of rankings if you don't like his?  There are many out there and it would reduce the stress in your life tenfold.
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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2014, 01:56:39 PM »
Ron, no stress at all.  We enjoy the bantering.
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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2014, 06:11:04 PM »
During the broadcast, when Spates was talking about Patterson's injury, I believe he mentioned they had a 125 lb transfer that "wasn't exactly ready to wrestle".. Does anybody recall hearing this? Who is this transfer? If this is in fact what Spates said..

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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2014, 08:52:09 PM »
During the broadcast, when Spates was talking about Patterson's injury, I believe he mentioned they had a 125 lb transfer that "wasn't exactly ready to wrestle".. Does anybody recall hearing this? Who is this transfer? If this is in fact what Spates said..

I remember something about a backup 125 guy not being ready, but I don't remember Spates saying he was a transfer. . NWCA only lists 2 guys at 125 for OU, Patterson and Sean Williams. But Williams is a FR so that rules out him being a transfer.


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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #70 on: January 21, 2014, 08:54:03 PM »
Maybe Kyle Garcia can pull down to 125 for OU.
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Re: UNI 19 - OU - 17!
« Reply #71 on: January 23, 2014, 04:00:15 PM »
Twice.... it's DeAngelis...Dijulius wrestles for the Buckeye's or is this another of those Stiebibler deals?

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