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Can Dake make 70 kg?
« on: April 21, 2014, 12:12:36 AM »
He started his Sr year at 157 and moved up to take on Taylor. Could he make the drop?
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Re: Can Dake make 70 kg?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 08:23:07 AM »
Did he actually move up or did his body grow up?
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Re: Can Dake make 70 kg?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 10:05:24 AM »
I'm pretty sure Dake was at 165 his entire senior year. 

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Re: Can Dake make 70 kg?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 10:13:14 AM »
Dake technically certified at 157 his senior year, but certification means one thing -- that's the lowest allowable weight you can go. If I recall correctly, the lowest Dake could get (at five percent body fat while hydrated) would have been something like 156.9 .... meaning he was near the absolutely low allowable with absolutely no wiggle room.

Sure, he could have made it and it probably would have made him sluggish and weaker in the third periods. He was at the absolute edge of being able to make 157 legally. Some people can't physically make their certifiable weight regardless of what the test says. There have been cases where fairly stout heavyweights were "certified" at like 174. The preseason certification means that's what you can legally make under the rules by Feb. 16 (or something close to it).

Now take that and factor it as 2.7 pounds less than 157, although with a 24-hour weigh in. For a guy like that, my observational experience is it takes months for a wrestler to shrink their body down to a weight vs. just cutting it. Think Paulson when he made the World Team at 66kg in 2009. Took him months to do it.

I don't think it's just a "see if he can make it"

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Re: Can Dake make 70 kg?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2014, 12:18:54 PM »
I would be a shame if Dake, Burroughs and Taylor couldn't all separate weights. Or at least one of them. IMO, the only guy that has the frame to go up would be Taylor.
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Re: Can Dake make 70 kg?
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2014, 11:51:03 AM »
Dake technically certified at 157 his senior year, but certification means one thing -- that's the lowest allowable weight you can go. If I recall correctly, the lowest Dake could get (at five percent body fat while hydrated) would have been something like 156.9 .... meaning he was near the absolutely low allowable with absolutely no wiggle room.

Sure, he could have made it and it probably would have made him sluggish and weaker in the third periods. He was at the absolute edge of being able to make 157 legally. Some people can't physically make their certifiable weight regardless of what the test says. There have been cases where fairly stout heavyweights were "certified" at like 174. The preseason certification means that's what you can legally make under the rules by Feb. 16 (or something close to it).

Now take that and factor it as 2.7 pounds less than 157, although with a 24-hour weigh in. For a guy like that, my observational experience is it takes months for a wrestler to shrink their body down to a weight vs. just cutting it. Think Paulson when he made the World Team at 66kg in 2009. Took him months to do it.

I don't think it's just a "see if he can make it"

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Re: Can Dake make 70 kg?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2014, 12:49:45 PM »
I would be a shame if Dake, Burroughs and Taylor couldn't all separate weights. Or at least one of them. IMO, the only guy that has the frame to go up would be Taylor.

Yeah, it's great to have that type of competition making each other better and really solidifying that weight.  But, on the other hand, it sucks to leave home two guys of that caliber.
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Re: Can Dake make 70 kg?
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2014, 01:18:29 PM »
Dake technically certified at 157 his senior year, but certification means one thing -- that's the lowest allowable weight you can go. If I recall correctly, the lowest Dake could get (at five percent body fat while hydrated) would have been something like 156.9 .... meaning he was near the absolutely low allowable with absolutely no wiggle room.

Sure, he could have made it and it probably would have made him sluggish and weaker in the third periods. He was at the absolute edge of being able to make 157 legally. Some people can't physically make their certifiable weight regardless of what the test says. There have been cases where fairly stout heavyweights were "certified" at like 174. The preseason certification means that's what you can legally make under the rules by Feb. 16 (or something close to it).

Now take that and factor it as 2.7 pounds less than 157, although with a 24-hour weigh in. For a guy like that, my observational experience is it takes months for a wrestler to shrink their body down to a weight vs. just cutting it. Think Paulson when he made the World Team at 66kg in 2009. Took him months to do it.

I don't think it's just a "see if he can make it"
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