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Cooper / Welch
« on: January 24, 2016, 11:33:52 AM »
That defensive fall on Welch was total BS. C'mon dude.
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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2016, 11:38:58 AM »
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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2016, 11:43:19 AM »
Just horrible.

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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2016, 02:01:53 PM »
it was pretty quick.  But the ref was actually in great position to call it. As a guy who had a few of those in college (more from bottom catching leg riders), you hope the ref is there and paying attention
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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2016, 04:19:34 PM »
It was the correct call.  If the ref would not have made it, we'd have Churrella/Hendricks photo slam II on the boards.
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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2016, 04:37:13 PM »
Welch had both shoulders pinned to the mat on that roll.  The ref had no choice but to follow the rules and call the fall.

You're commenting on the wrong Welch match though.  That throw by Paddock was sweet as hell.
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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2016, 06:01:33 PM »
Awful call.
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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2016, 06:09:06 PM »
Terrible call.  Yes, both shoulders go down as he rolls, but no way do the shoulders stay down for a full second. 

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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2016, 06:37:44 PM »
Welch had both shoulders pinned to the mat on that roll.  The ref had no choice but to follow the rules and call the fall.

You're commenting on the wrong Welch match though.  That throw by Paddock was sweet as hell.
Now that you mention it, Paddock was more pinned in the following match.
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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2016, 10:51:50 PM »
Slowing it down in a video editor, the longest I can get out of it is 0.9 seconds. On the tail end, you can't tell clearly when the scapula clears the mat, but the way they were rolling my guess is that it was closer to 0.6 seconds.  This seems like a case of seeing what you're looking for, and calling it fast on account of the anticipation.

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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2016, 06:43:44 AM »
One of my guys had a similar call a couple weeks ago in the sense of the wrestler was clearly flat but the pin was called well under two seconds.

I turned to the other assistant in the chair as the other team was screaming and hollering about the call and pointed out that even if it isn't right quick falls are a major aspect of the sport.
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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2016, 05:45:22 PM »
I can count one-thousand-one in under 0.6 seconds.
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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2016, 07:50:35 PM »
Slowing it down in a video editor, the longest I can get out of it is 0.9 seconds. On the tail end, you can't tell clearly when the scapula clears the mat, but the way they were rolling my guess is that it was closer to 0.6 seconds.  This seems like a case of seeing what you're looking for, and calling it fast on account of the anticipation.
I couldn't argue the call going either way.  The ref called it and no real reason to complain.  It happens when both scapula are in contact for mare than a instant.  Solution - stay off your back.
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Re: Cooper / Welch
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2016, 08:14:23 PM »
"Mistakes happen" is the phrase.  And it's true, they do.