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US Nationals Discussion
« on: April 16, 2019, 04:06:36 PM »
OK, let's start the discuss here.  I got nothing right now.   But I wanted a placeholder for all you real International enthusiasts out there.

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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2019, 04:47:14 PM »
Stieber just announced his retirement, which makes 65kg more (or less?) interesting.

Anyways, I think the weights where we aren't returning any medalists will be the funnest to watch.

57kg contenders:


Gilman
Fix
Tomasello

A couple of NCAA Champs....

Cruz
Delgado

Where's Spencer Lee? Maybe he enters the trials.


61kg contenders:


Megaludis
Clark
Ramos
Brewer
Waters
Graff

I like Colon or Garrett at the trials over any of these guys.

65kg contenders:

Molinaro
Oliver
Retherford
Yianni

Also features...

Eierman
Meredith
Heil
McKenna
Futrell


70kg contenders

Nobody I see registered that threatens Green (so far). Would like to see Nolf here, but maybe he waits until the trials.


74kg contenders


I would be surprised if IMar doesn't destroy everyone at the open. I think JB wins rather comfortably at Final X.

The next 5 weights aren't that interesting since we return a world medalist at each one (3 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze). I think all 5 retain their spot at Final X.

Taylor and Snyder tech everyone domestically. Coon should give Gwiazdowski a good run.Maybe Nickal (who isn't entered at the Open yet) can challenge Cox, but reports have said Cox has been a man on fire in the practice room. Dake has to deal with Dieringer and Valencia (also isn't entered at the Open yet)--who both have a legit shot at medaling IMO, but Dake's just simply better.


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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2019, 10:59:51 AM »
Stieber just announced his retirement, which makes 65kg more (or less?) interesting.

Anyways, I think the weights where we aren't returning any medalists will be the funnest to watch.

57kg contenders:


Gilman
Fix
Tomasello

A couple of NCAA Champs....

Cruz
Delgado

Where's Spencer Lee? Maybe he enters the trials.


61kg contenders:


Megaludis
Clark
Ramos
Brewer
Waters
Graff

I like Colon or Garrett at the trials over any of these guys.

65kg contenders:

Molinaro
Oliver
Retherford
Yianni

Also features...

Eierman
Meredith
Heil
McKenna
Futrell


70kg contenders

Nobody I see registered that threatens Green (so far). Would like to see Nolf here, but maybe he waits until the trials.


74kg contenders


I would be surprised if IMar doesn't destroy everyone at the open. I think JB wins rather comfortably at Final X.

The next 5 weights aren't that interesting since we return a world medalist at each one (3 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze). I think all 5 retain their spot at Final X.

Taylor and Snyder tech everyone domestically. Coon should give Gwiazdowski a good run.Maybe Nickal (who isn't entered at the Open yet) can challenge Cox, but reports have said Cox has been a man on fire in the practice room. Dake has to deal with Dieringer and Valencia (also isn't entered at the Open yet)--who both have a legit shot at medaling IMO, but Dake's just simply better.

Dake better be ready for Dieringer, he's improved a LOT over the last 18 months and just won the Kolov.
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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2019, 07:35:14 PM »
Pre-seeds announced, I’ll list the top 4–if there are 4 or more.


57kg:

Gilman
Fix
Sanders
Tomasello

I think Fix takes it this year. I hope his loss to Suriano lit a fire in his belly. Would love to see Spencer Lee enter the trials.


61kg:

Megaludis
Graff
Whitford
Clark

Note — I haven’t been following the Senior Circuit too closely and had no idea Whitford was still competing. He’s seeded over 3 recent NCAA champs in Clark, Ramos, and Brewer. Makes me wonder what could have been—also didn’t know he could get down this low in weight.


65kg:

Oliver
Retherford
McKenna
Molinaro

Sign me up for a potential Yianni/Molinaro quarter and Yianni/Oliver semi. Excited for a McKenna/Retherford match too.


70kg:

Green
Chamberlain
Sorenson
Nolf


Guess we’re getting Green and Nolf in the semis.


74kg:

Martinez
Gantt
Wick
Godley

Martinez might go unscored upon like last year’s open.


79kg:

Dieringer
Marsteller
Nathan Jackson

Only 3 entries? I wish Mark Hall would enter here or at 74kg even though he said he would not be able to get down that low again. He’s one of the most decorated wrestlers on the international youth circuit with 2 Junior World Titles. I’d like to see him against Dake and Dieringer. Hopefully Hall (and Valencia) both enter the trials.


86kg:

Brooks
Martin
Downey
Heflin

I’m not sure who the favorite is here. Perhaps Martin? Although Brooks has historically owned him. Maybe Downey will come out on top. Taylor likely techs the field anyways.


92kg:


Zillmer
Nickal
Macchiavello
Moore


Would be a little surprised if Nickal doesn’t win the Open.


97kg:


Gadson
Walz
Honis
Cabell

Snyder techs the field.


125kg:

Coon
Bradley
Nelson
Hall


I like Coon.


Who do y’all got at each weight?



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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2019, 10:11:50 AM »
With regard to Coon, I don't see him being our rep if Gwiz is half Gwiz.  I just don't think Coon has that ability to turn it on against a quality opponent.  Just  my observation.  I would love to see him do well, but I don' think it will be in FS. 

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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2019, 10:48:40 AM »
Brackets out ?

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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2019, 02:38:03 PM »
They are at Flo. 

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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2019, 07:06:33 PM »
Stieber just announced his retirement, which makes 65kg more (or less?) interesting.

Anyways, I think the weights where we aren't returning any medalists will be the funnest to watch.

57kg contenders:


Gilman
Fix
Tomasello

A couple of NCAA Champs....

Cruz
Delgado

Where's Spencer Lee? Maybe he enters the trials.


61kg contenders:


Megaludis
Clark
Ramos
Brewer
Waters
Graff

I like Colon or Garrett at the trials over any of these guys.

65kg contenders:

Molinaro
Oliver
Retherford
Yianni

Also features...

Eierman
Meredith
Heil
McKenna
Futrell


70kg contenders

Nobody I see registered that threatens Green (so far). Would like to see Nolf here, but maybe he waits until the trials.


74kg contenders


I would be surprised if IMar doesn't destroy everyone at the open. I think JB wins rather comfortably at Final X.

The next 5 weights aren't that interesting since we return a world medalist at each one (3 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze). I think all 5 retain their spot at Final X.

Taylor and Snyder tech everyone domestically. Coon should give Gwiazdowski a good run.Maybe Nickal (who isn't entered at the Open yet) can challenge Cox, but reports have said Cox has been a man on fire in the practice room. Dake has to deal with Dieringer and Valencia (also isn't entered at the Open yet)--who both have a legit shot at medaling IMO, but Dake's just simply better.

Dake better be ready for Dieringer, he's improved a LOT over the last 18 months and just won the Kolov.
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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2019, 09:20:31 PM »
Yianni is something else.

10-3 over Molinaro

16-5 over Oliver

Has Retherford in the finals tomorrow afternoon.

It would be quite the gauntlet if he wins tomorrow.

Who are you guys taking? Yianni or Zain?

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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2019, 10:05:04 PM »
Not backing down on Zain

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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2019, 10:19:08 PM »
They are at Flo. 

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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2019, 03:19:07 PM »
I thought Yianni broke JO
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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2019, 04:10:22 PM »
I thought Yianni broke JO
That is impressive.
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Re: US Nationals Discussion
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2019, 04:31:21 PM »
Only big surprise was Deakin winning 70kg. I’m not sure who people took at 61 or 65, but the winners weren’t all too surprising.



2019 US Open Champs:


57kg - Fix
61kg - Brewer
65kg - Yianni
70kg - Deakin
74kg - IMar
79 kg - Dieringer
86 kg - Downey
92 kg - Nickal
97kg - Gadsen
125kg - Coon


I’d give the outstanding wrestler award to Yianni. Running through Molinaro, JO, and Retherford in back-to-back-to back matches was simply impressive.


Dieringer blitzed a very barren 79kg field, spending less than 4.5 minutes on the mat through 5 matches. I’d like to see this current version of Dieringer against Hall and Valencia at the trials.