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Who would you rather sign as a quarterback today

Brett Favre
5 (38.5%)
Michael Vick
8 (61.5%)

Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: August 18, 2009, 11:20:33 AM

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Favre or Vick
« on: August 18, 2009, 11:20:33 AM »
Lots of stuff out there regarding these two quarterbacks playing in the 2009-2010 season.  If you were an owner, who would you rather sign today?

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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 11:22:46 AM »
i'd pick the one who is not 41 years old.
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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 11:35:55 AM »
I will take Vick, but not as a QB
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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2009, 12:16:02 PM »
Favre was good 10 years ago, Vick is 29.  Easy choice.
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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 12:19:13 PM »
Quote from: "Viratas"
I will take Vick, but not as a QB
My sentiments exactly.
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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2009, 01:48:10 PM »
Vick still has a huge career in front of him.

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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2009, 02:32:21 PM »
You may be correct

I would make his a FS
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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2009, 02:46:22 PM »
Quote from: "Viratas"
You may be correct

I would make his a FS

even though he has never played defense or hit anyone, you make him a defensive player.

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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2009, 03:03:07 PM »
Yes I would. FS is the least physical position on Defense.

Deon Sanders did pretty well and Vick has hit more guys as a QB the Sanders ever did as a FS. Also, as an ex QB he would have decent reads. Also, I am sure he has never tackled anyone right Jimmy?

I would also consider him a slot player, but then again you dont think he can take a hit so maybe not.
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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2009, 03:43:45 PM »
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Yes I would. FS is the least physical position on Defense.

Deon Sanders did pretty well and Vick has hit more guys as a QB the Sanders ever did as a FS. Also, as an ex QB he would have decent reads. Also, I am sure he has never tackled anyone right Jimmy?

I would also consider him a slot player, but then again you dont think he can take a hit so maybe not.

I tend to disagree on the physicality of cornerbacks over FSs. FS are still charged with some run support and generally not so with CBs.
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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2009, 03:47:10 PM »
well I suppose if your idea to make Vick a defensive back is so brilliant, there is a good chance the professionals in the Viking Org. will recognize the same idea, and we will be seeing Vick playing defense soon.

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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2009, 04:31:21 PM »
Jimmy football is a topic I know I can run circles around you in. Specifically from a position by position break down so you will not in the least annoy me on this one.

VG. I Disagree in Most Defenses the FS Job is to be the saftey valve and not come up for any major run support, that is the job of the SS. Corners contain and FS chase. If you FS is coming up and making a lot of tackles most likely you SS sucks as do you LB's. The FS also serves as Secondary Contain for the Corners.
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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2009, 05:16:05 PM »
I have plenty of football experience.  Maybe not as much as you, but enough to know that winning is everything in the NFL.  And if the professionals in the Eagle organization from the Owner to GM to Assistants to Scouts to Coaches to Head Coach believe as YOU do, that Vick should be used as the starting Free Safety, surely that is where they will put him.

Why do YOU think that in reality there is not a snowballs chance in hell Vick EVER plays on defense.  

The answer to that question should shed some light on your fun Madden-esque theory.

And if you are really suggesting Vick is best suited to play FS, you are doing a horrible disservice to your football credibility.

If vick plays safety I will give you a huge apology.  But the professionals know that Vick has no business being used at FS.  That is an 'armchair' theory if I have ever heard one!!  LOL
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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2009, 05:17:54 PM »
Next V is going to tell us Usain Bolt needs to be starting for the Bears at WR bc Hester and Co. can't get it done.
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Re: Favre or Vick
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2009, 05:59:46 PM »
Yea ok Jimmy I feel so much worse now that you disagree with me.

He was not that good of a QB in the NFL before this, so what makes you think he will be good now? You can think my opinion is absurd all you want. Yea nobody is moving him and yea they are professional coaches so I am sure they are all smart cookies. Thats why the always win right? I would look at moving him awau from QB. Maybe Def. Maybe not, I think he could have a far more productive career at a postion other then QB.

Reasons I believe he would make a good FS.

1. Speed
2. Play making ability
3. Knowledge of the offense and abilty to read
4. Height.

Now please come back with another one of your oh so insightful posts.
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