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Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« on: November 16, 2009, 03:40:22 PM »
Wt....OSU...v....Iowa.......- Winner by score.. Team Score
125: Notte vs McDonough  - Notte by Major.... 4-0  
133: Oliver vs Dennis - Dennis 5-4 .................4-3
141: Parks vs LeClere - Parks 8-6 ..................8-3
149: White vs Metcalf - Metcalf Fall ...............8-9
157: Erisman vs Janssen - Erisman 5-4 ...........11-9
165: Meade vs Morningstar - Morningstar 4-1...11-12
174: Benefiel vs Borschel - Borschel 7-2..........11-15
184: Foster vs Keddy - Foster 6-5 .................14-15
197: Gelogaev vs Beatty - Gelogaev 8-2..........17-15
285: Rosholt vs Johnson - Rosholt 7-2.............20-15

The toughest match for me to call was Foster vs Keddy. That outcome could easily flip leaving the Hawks with a 18-17 win.  The other tossups I see as Dennis v Oliver, Parks v LeClere and Erisman vs Janssen

Discuss.
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 03:50:37 PM »
Wt....OSU...v....Iowa.......- Winner by score.. Team Score
125: Notte vs McDonough - Notte by Major.... 4-0
133: Oliver vs Dennis - Oliver dec .................7-0
141: Parks vs LeClere - Parks dec ..................10-0
149: White vs Metcalf - Metcalf TF ...............10-5
157: Erisman vs Janssen - Erisman dec ...........13-5
165: Meade vs Morningstar - Morningstar MD...13-9
174: Benefiel vs Borschel - Benefiel dec..........16-9
184: Foster vs Keddy - Foster dec .................19-9
197: Gelogaev vs Beatty - Gelogaev MD..........23-9
285: Rosholt vs Johnson - Rosholt MD.............27-9
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 03:53:31 PM »
Quote from: "Rockhard"
Wt....OSU...v....Iowa.......- Winner by score.. Team Score
125: Notte vs McDonough - Notte by Major.... 4-0
133: Oliver vs Dennis - Oliver dec .................7-0
141: Parks vs LeClere - Parks dec ..................10-0
149: White vs Metcalf - Metcalf TF ...............10-5
157: Erisman vs Janssen - Erisman dec ...........13-5
165: Meade vs Morningstar - Morningstar MD...13-9
174: Benefiel vs Borschel - Benefiel dec..........16-9
184: Foster vs Keddy - Foster dec .................19-9
197: Gelogaev vs Beatty - Gelogaev MD..........23-9
285: Rosholt vs Johnson - Rosholt MD.............27-9

Oliver 7-0??? Whoa!
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 03:55:35 PM »
So far most comments have been that White's defense is very very good.  I have hopes that he can keep Metcalf in major territory.  

I think Erisman is very underrated this year.  I think he is solidly in the win category.

If the dual were held today, McNeil and not Benefiel would be the guy for OSU.  That puts the weight quite firmly in Iowa's favor.

I think Keddy is a favorite over Foster, although I expect when it is actually held that they have a good match.  I think the new weight will suit Foster very well.

Wow, Rockhard likes what he sees in the Cowboys.......or hates the Hawkeyes.
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 04:45:12 PM »
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Quote from: "Rockhard"
Wt....OSU...v....Iowa.......- Winner by score.. Team Score
125: Notte vs McDonough - Notte by Major.... 4-0
133: Oliver vs Dennis - Oliver dec .................7-0
141: Parks vs LeClere - Parks dec ..................10-0
149: White vs Metcalf - Metcalf TF ...............10-5
157: Erisman vs Janssen - Erisman dec ...........13-5
165: Meade vs Morningstar - Morningstar MD...13-9
174: Benefiel vs Borschel - Benefiel dec..........16-9
184: Foster vs Keddy - Foster dec .................19-9
197: Gelogaev vs Beatty - Gelogaev MD..........23-9
285: Rosholt vs Johnson - Rosholt MD.............27-9

Oliver 7-0??? Whoa!

No, that's the team score. I just picked that he would win by dec.
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 05:02:42 PM »
I would be willing to bet CASH that Iowa scores more than 9 points in this dual.  You realize that they're wrestling in Iowa City right?  And the Hawkeyes are still smarting from the loss to them two years ago...in fact Iowa's last dual defeat?

125:
Notte gets the win ... but he isn't going to major McDonough  3-0
Dennis in a close match (that's all he wrestles)                     3-3
I will give Parks the win over LeClere here                            6-3
Metcalf Majors White...at Least                                         6-7
Erisman will get a decision against Jannsen                           9-7
M* will wrestle like he wrestles and get the decision              9-10
Borschel will win this one as well                                        9-13
Keddy has Gambrall pushing him every day, he wins this one    9-16
Geleogvan (sp) will beat Beatty...but not a major                  12-16
Rosholt will major whoever the Hawks throw out here             16-16

I see this as an even dual.  133 & 141 will set the tone for this dual.  Either Iowa or OSU could take both of these weights.  And if a team manages that they will walk away with the victory.  A split would leave it up to their "Stars" to put bonus points on the board.  I think Iowa has a greater ability to manage that.  This dual would be better if Erekson could go, that would make Iowa the sure favorite because at worst he gives up a decision.  There are going to be close matches, but Iowa has won those lately.
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 05:04:36 PM »
Is Erekson not going to be back for this dual in January?
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 05:06:58 PM »
Quote from: "brycemus"
I would be willing to bet CASH that Iowa scores more than 9 points in this dual.  You realize that they're wrestling in Iowa City right?  And the Hawkeyes are still smarting from the loss to them two years ago...in fact Iowa's last dual defeat?

125:
Notte gets the win ... but he isn't going to major McDonough  3-0
Dennis in a close match (that's all he wrestles)                     3-3
I will give Parks the win over LeClere here                            6-3
Metcalf Majors White...at Least                                         6-7
Erisman will get a decision against Jannsen                           9-7
M* will wrestle like he wrestles and get the decision              9-10
Borschel will win this one as well                                        9-13
Keddy has Gambrall pushing him every day, he wins this one    9-16
Geleogvan (sp) will beat Beatty...but not a major                  12-16
Rosholt will major whoever the Hawks throw out here             16-16

I see this as an even dual.  133 & 141 will set the tone for this dual.  Either Iowa or OSU could take both of these weights.  And if a team manages that they will walk away with the victory.  A split would leave it up to their "Stars" to put bonus points on the board.  I think Iowa has a greater ability to manage that.  This dual would be better if Erekson could go, that would make Iowa the sure favorite because at worst he gives up a decision.  There are going to be close matches, but Iowa has won those lately.

Okay they might score at least 10. ;)
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 05:13:10 PM »
125: We haven't seen Notte against top flight competition at this weight yet, but I'm very high on him.  I'll give him 3 for now. 3-0 OSU
133: Oliver is a stud, but I can't give him the win over Dennis until he beats someone in the top 10. 3-3
141: I have no idea here.  I'll go with LeClere. 6-3 Iowa
149: White has great D.  Still a major. 10-3 Iowa
157: Erisman. 10-6 Iowa
165: M* 13-6 Iowa
174: It doesn't matter who the Cowboys have here, Borschell will win. 16-6 Iowa
184: Keddy.  I love Clayton Foster and he has proven he can beat the big guns so he could win this, but I can't say he will. 19-6 Iowa
197: I'll take Z. 19-9 Iowa
HWT: Rosholt looked great this weekend, but predicting bonus from him seems too much. 19-12 Iowa

I feel like 133 and 141 could be true coin-flip matches and I wouldn't rule out Cowboy upsets at 165 or 184.  I also couldn't rule out Hawk upsets at 125 or 197.  Overall, this is Iowa's dual to lose, but if OSU can stick up 3 wins in a row off the bat and then hold Metcalf to a major or less, you have to like their chances.

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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 05:20:28 PM »
I'm curious. If Iowa loses, will Gable be looking for someone to replace Brands?
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 05:55:29 PM »
FWIW...

As I said, this is based on the teams TODAY. I also based on a neutral site.
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 06:42:39 PM »
In January the Hawks could have  Ereckson, Marion, Slaton back.  I expect 2 of them to wrestle in the real dual.

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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2009, 01:04:13 PM »
I would expect Marion to be the man at 141 when this dual takes place and he will beat Parks. Also, Ereksen should be back which will help. Rosholt will probably win since Dan won't be back to 100% yet but it should be a regular decision. 133, 157, and 197 will all be very close and hard to call I think. Now for the upset special according to what you guys are picking. McDonough seems to be doing great with his weight and will win by decision against Notte. He is going to make a splash this year gentlemen...

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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2009, 01:21:55 PM »
sig bet on Oliver/Dennis?

i get Oliver.

i guarantee a win over a Dennis
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Re: Iowa vs OK State (My predictions if held today)
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2009, 01:26:11 PM »
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I would expect Marion to be the man at 141 when this dual takes place and he will beat Parks. Also, Ereksen should be back which will help. Rosholt will probably win since Dan won't be back to 100% yet but it should be a regular decision. 133, 157, and 197 will all be very close and hard to call I think. Now for the upset special according to what you guys are picking. McDonough seems to be doing great with his weight and will win by decision against Notte. He is going to make a splash this year gentlemen...

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