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Is being gay a choice?

yes
12 (48%)
no
11 (44%)
undecided
2 (8%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Voting closed: December 17, 2009, 05:52:15 PM

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Offline coachsparky

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2010, 03:32:13 PM »
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Are mass murderers that way by choice or are they born that way?  Are cleptomanicaics that way by choice or are they born that way?  Are child molesters that way by choice or are they born that way?  Shall we excuse everything and make it acceptable by tagging it as hereditary?


the thing is, in all those cases, there is a victim.

who is negatively affected by someone being gay? let it be. it doesn't affect me or you so who cares?
Actually the 2 guy individuals are both victims,  They suffer tremendous damage mentally, physically,and emotionally.  It is a horrible and destructive thing to do to one's self.

You and I and all of society are the victims here.  We pay up the kazoo for this destructive practice.

it boggles my mind that people are stupid enough to say things like this.

Really LoSt?  This is just standard fare from the crazy texas coach.  It only gets more stupid from here.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2010, 08:56:42 AM »
Maybe you 2 brilliant ones need to look at the death rate of queers and the medical costs of AIDS.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2010, 09:05:11 AM »
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Maybe you 2 brilliant ones need to look at the death rate of queers and the medical costs of AIDS.

Maybe your ignorance needs to look at the death rate of heterosexuals, the medical cost of cervical cancer, AIDS (it is not just a homosexual disease you know moron) and other sexually transmitted diseases experience by the heterosexual community that is promiscuous as well.  Committed partners in the homosexual community would not have those issues dumb-dumb.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2010, 12:30:40 PM »
God made Adam and eve not Adam and Steve!! Haha!
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2010, 12:46:35 PM »
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God made Adam and eve not Adam and Steve!! Haha!

I thought you were an evolutionist.  :wink:
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2010, 05:24:39 PM »
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2010, 09:32:27 AM »
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You and Sparky make a cute couple.   :D  Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2010, 07:40:58 PM »
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Maybe you 2 brilliant ones need to look at the death rate of queers and the medical costs of AIDS.

I don't care about all of that. I just know the family and friends I used to talk about; they are married now. Legally even. And a few of them have school aged kids, and a few others have raised school aged kids. All the "kids" who are adults now are straight and in college or starting families and so forth (I am getting old).

As to the debate at large; it doesn't matter. The ones I care about are integrated, married, with kids for the ones who wanted them, and doing well. The rest is just background noise.

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2010, 11:02:56 PM »
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who is negatively affected by someone being gay? let it be. it doesn't affect me or you so who cares?

I agree 100% BUT even between two consenting adults you are making a choice to copulate with the same sex...celibacy is also a choice.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2010, 11:23:14 PM »
Why should someone who is born gay choose to be celibate?

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2010, 08:51:32 AM »
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Why should someone who is born gay choose to be celibate?
There is zero evidence to point out that someone is born gay.  It is only opinion, never been proven.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2010, 09:01:30 PM »
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Why should someone who is born gay choose to be celibate?
There is zero evidence to point out that someone is born gay.  It is only opinion, never been proven.

It really does not matter whether they are born that way or not, it is understood by all reasonably intelligent people that it is not a choice, so that is an accepted fact whether it is due to genetic, or nurture does not really matter.  Why would a person who's natural inclination is to be attracted to people of the same gender be expected to be celibate while people who's natural inclination is to  be attracted to the opposite gender do not have the same expectation.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2010, 11:21:27 AM »
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Why should someone who is born gay choose to be celibate?
There is zero evidence to point out that someone is born gay.  It is only opinion, never been proven.

It really does not matter whether they are born that way or not, it is understood by all reasonably intelligent people that it is not a choice, so that is an accepted fact whether it is due to genetic, or nurture does not really matter.  Why would a person who's natural inclination is to be attracted to people of the same gender be expected to be celibate while people who's natural inclination is to  be attracted to the opposite gender do not have the same expectation.

Your argument could be construed as saying "Anyone who does not believe that it is not a choice is NOT reasonable intelligent"
Are you really ready to make that leap Sparkles....???
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2010, 12:43:39 PM »
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Why should someone who is born gay choose to be celibate?
There is zero evidence to point out that someone is born gay.  It is only opinion, never been proven.

It really does not matter whether they are born that way or not, it is understood by all reasonably intelligent people that it is not a choice, so that is an accepted fact whether it is due to genetic, or nurture does not really matter.  Why would a person who's natural inclination is to be attracted to people of the same gender be expected to be celibate while people who's natural inclination is to  be attracted to the opposite gender do not have the same expectation.

Your argument could be construed as saying "Anyone who does not believe that it is not a choice is NOT reasonable intelligent"
Are you really ready to make that leap Sparkles....???

This is Sparky you're talking about.... OF COURSE thats what he's saying.  :roll:
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2010, 11:36:26 PM »
For one of the very very few times Tight_a$$ has actually stated something correctly.  I definitely believe that anyone who believes someone would actually choose to be one of the most discriminated minorities in the US, has a very very very low IQ.  Their intelligence is about as rock bottom as a person can get.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark;  the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

Bigotry disguised as religious liberty is still BIGOTRY